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welcome and this is the truth funders

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network my name is art web hello there i

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am your host for this weekly look at

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truth funders calm and everything that

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is paranormal metaphysical universal and

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of course essentially good it is once

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and not once it's all well always all

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the time just stepping all over this

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thing it's about the light here I thanks

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so much for tuning in this week I am

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super excited about this week's show as

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it is a continuation of last week's show

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but Before we jump into what that was I

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would like to of course introduce my

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trusty and always reliable sidekick he's

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with me every week he is the CEO and

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founder of truth funders calm he's

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coming to us alive from the Bay Area his

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name is mark Schwartz hello mark

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schwartz hello art web how are you doing

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tonight I am doing rather spectacular my

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friend Oh rather spectacular indeed that

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is spectacular yeah it's it's been a

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crazy week man there's been so much

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going on I got a whole bunch of crazy

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issue it was a mad magazine okay I got

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to tell you this story real quick so are

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you do you know however you're holding

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your phone don't change it again because

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you drop it out still okay how's that we

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doing a little bit better how much

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better much better than excellent great

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so I mentioned this the other day on

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Jimmy church' show i called in real

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quick and on open lines and we talked

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about it I I believe in wishes I believe

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that if you put it out there put it out

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to the world it comes back to you

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happened to be right right so I happen

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to be a big collector and I love mad

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magazine I think it's one of the things

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that's been helping me cope during the

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stress of putting on a wedding and

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getting married at the end of this month

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it kind of is my escape from reality i

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regress to my 14 year old self I read my

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math and there everything's okay with

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the world so I I put a bid on eBay and I

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was trying to get these two issues of

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old mad I kind of dog is back there

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shaking around he just follows me

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everywhere so I'm home alone right now

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the the soon-to-be wife is out of town

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and so the dog is following me around I

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apologize for that but he's a good dog

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and he might bark sometime during the

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show his elders he's a Jew thunders

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official mascot he is Henry Henry the

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mascot of truth funders um don't let the

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name fool you he's he's a devil Henry

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sounds like it's an upstanding citizen

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but he what makes me think of his Henry

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in the Hendersons honestly I just

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imagine a big Sasquatch yeah well he

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looks like a small Sasquatch so you're

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not far off so yeah so mad magazine so I

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put this wish out that you know I want

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to win this bid I wind up losing this

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bit like hardcore someone outbid me by

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ton and it's like man oh well I'll get

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over it but I wish I had those copies of

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mad so not two days later I am walking

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looking and I'm just walking and there's

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a box and the box says free and I go

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over to the box and I look at me and

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it's literally 15 copies of old Mad

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of course it was the universe that was

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you man vs. of one of the wondrous ebay

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yeah one of the ones from ebay was

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actually in this pile and they were in

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fairly decent condition it was just

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someone who you know getting rid of

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armor or whatnot and so yeah what I say

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is put the energy out there people and

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you will get your high energy in return

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you have to put it out there but not

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only that it's a two-part process

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ultimately because this is something

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that you and I

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have come together on many times and a

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commonality that we share on not only do

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also in turn have to be open to it

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coming back to you as well you have to

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be keeping an eye out for the signs and

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you have to just you know put it out

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there but don't sit there believe wanna

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put this out there but nothing's ever

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gonna come of it you have to keep an

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optimistic heart as well and you keep

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your eyes open I mean you went and

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looked in that empty butter that box set

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free now what urged you to do that was

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being open to uh the return on

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investment that you asked from the

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universe so I think that it really is a

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two-part thing you gotta be open to it

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as well I I couldn't agree more pretty

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funny I'm everyone really quickly that

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reminds me of something on that happen

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to me this week very similarly and I'll

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be quick about this i clicked vinyl

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albums i collect records and i love

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doing it for the hunt i I don't buy them

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online because I think that ruins the

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hunt it's when you come across something

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that you've been looking for that you

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see oh I've been waiting for like two

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years for this you know that that's

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that's nice right right but also on the

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other side of it it's something that I

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can do and I can always find super cheap

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albums that are ultimately worth like 10

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a lot of people just don't know what the

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collecting rates are for vinyl records

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store just flipping through albums and

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sure enough they have a sealed version

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of alanis morissette's debut record

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jagged little pill a sealed first

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pressing oh wow that was it like the

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original pressing waitangi yummy 1486 or

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whatever for whatever wasn't Wow ritual

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pressing still sealed 18 bucks it's

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worth like 800 holy ass bomb did you are

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you gonna keep it are you gonna sell it

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what are you what do you usually my

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opinion about albums is they're made to

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be listened to other what I don't like

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and then putting them in frames are

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never opening them and kid names

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collectibles I mean I understand people

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that want to do that but I don't feel

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like you get the full enjoyment out of

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that i am by them to listen to them and

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then they're also like heah retirement

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investment on top of that but yeah I

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mean I didn't listen to yeah I collect

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vinyl as well and some of them I mean I

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d of everything but I do have the the

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Stay Puft Marshmallow it smells like

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Stay Puft Marshmallow that this edition

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the gimmicks again national vinyl it

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smells like candy at once the histories

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that I'm afraid of an a bigger reason to

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these gimmicks yeah I know but I I'll

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that i was born days i am an 80s sucker

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you know absolutely Oh God way I know I

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wanted to give up the phone number real

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quick 88 89 9 23 55 is the telephone

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number here at true thunders radio on I

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are in 88 89 1923 55 and Before we jump

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I suppose we should fill everyone in on

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or at least remind them what it is we

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were talking about and who we were

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talking to their names are Chad and ulta

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strangeness book concept that just went

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live on truth lenders calm yes yes yes

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it sure did so if you right now go to ww

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will see Chad and altis project and it's

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called et contact in the French Quarter

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and you can go ahead and click on that

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and you will see their story you will

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see the photos that we will be talking

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see an x-ray of the implants that ulta

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that at tonight and you will be seeing

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you know what they're trying to do by

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taking this book and capturing it in

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time and getting it getting it written

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and and published so you can go there

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very end of today's show and it's

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something that I'm personally going to

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donate to while we are on the air

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tonight and before we get to that I just

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want to say thank you guys so much

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there's been a lot of email there's been

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a lot of contact coming in and we really

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appreciate it so feel free to go ahead

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and email us at truth funders

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@ gmail.com and we will go ahead and get

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back to you as soon as humanly possible

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we try to respond to every single email

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that comes through but that there's a

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lot going on here so if it takes a day

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or if it takes three days we apologize

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but we will get back to you and on that

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fantastic week we have geologists from

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the USGS the United States Geological

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Survey one of the top geologists david

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schwartz will be on the show he is going

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to be on here and dispelling a lot of

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the rumors about what happens when an

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earthquake happens and you know the

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ideas of predicting earthquakes and I

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this is the first time learning of this

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by the way um we did not talk about this

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show and it's funny that you that you

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bring the something that you mention

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that because no no earlier than I mean

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two or three days ago I was driving

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around thinking about the show and

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thinking you know we should do a show

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dedicated and we talked a lot about like

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seeking out the truth and and bringing

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out the light and and and and having

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things rise to the surface that have

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been um you know washed is a

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superstition or whatever over the years

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show that talks about hoaxes or at least

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the other side of it and uncovering

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things that are hoaxes or whatever you

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that like it falls right in line with

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dispelling rumors so it's kind of funny

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they're there is like the we we get a

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lot of stuff coming into the paranormal

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genre and and my goal and our goal art

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for truth funders is to hear all sides

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of it from the totally you know the

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stories that are are different and out

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there um to people who are creating

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things and making things happen in the

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paranormal world to people who have had

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experiences to real science I mean I

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want to get the gambit to skeptics we

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want to hear it all because it's not

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about not allowing in information it's

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about getting as much information as

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possible and then deciphering for

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ourselves what seems real or what we

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connect

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with and and learning as much as we can

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in deciphering from that if I was to

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just watch fox news all day long I would

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think the world is coming to an end so

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you have to watch fox and CBS and NBC

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and ABC nihat and BBC and all these

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different stations in order to formulate

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the correct opinion and get the right

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idea so so that's really what we want to

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do we won't have guests on of you know

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reputable guests in all of these genres

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across the board and I think next week

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is going to be a really really cool

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episode David was also on was in the

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article that Jimmy church was mentioned

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in on the huffington post about the

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underwater malibu base so we will touch

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on that a little bit and and maybe talk

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a little bit about that story i don't

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know if we'll get to that or not but it

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will be a cool show regardless it's

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going to be it's going to be awesome and

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we're also going to be talking about

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real things real predictions of

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earthquakes and what they're doing right

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now to predict earthquakes in the

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science field David Schwartz also

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happens to be my father so that's

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something he's gonna say David Schwartz

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any relation to mark Schwartz was going

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to be my next question he is and you

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know I filmed a documentary in Mongolia

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and it was for the United States

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Geological Survey they asked me to go

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out in film and of course you know I I

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got it because of my background but also

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because my dad had worked there so I

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knew about the position and I applied

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for it when i was there we were there

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with 50 scientists from all around the

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world from Russia to Iran to from china

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to japan england and america there were

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just people from everywhere and they

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would just it didn't matter that I you

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know as a cameraman for real world and

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that I had worked and been nominated for

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an Emmy and that I had done all the

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stuff they didn't care about me and my

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camera stuff they would say come here mo

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art kamiya mark and then they would just

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talk about my dad apparently and I had

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no idea my dad was like he's like the

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Indiana Jones of geology and had I known

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that I might have actually become a real

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scientist

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and follow in his footsteps instead it

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sounds pretty rocky you know what I mean

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technology yeah you know he's been

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featured on 60 minutes rocket nice i

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like that there we go take a couple

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seconds you got it yeah he's been

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featured on 60 minutes a year ago he's

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been on he's on the news like 10 times a

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year he's he's quoted everywhere he's

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really one of the one of the top guys at

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the USGS so we'll be took a lot from

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people looking forward to the show next

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we could be a lot of fun and he this is

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you know this is definitely gonna be a

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call heavy show so uh make sure your

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tune in live to the program next week we

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air live here on the inception radio

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network every wednesday night at 6pm

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pacific time 9 p.m. eastern AP if you're

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somewhere in the middle we do encourage

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all of you to tune in live I know a lot

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of you were listening to this on a

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podcast after the fact ah but the live

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shows where it's at because that way we

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can interact with you in real time and

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this show is all about community

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interaction because ultimately it is

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about you the listener without listener

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there is no show it's just mark and I

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blabbing on about really a whole lot of

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craziness and we we value your opinion

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in your thoughts and your on engagement

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and interaction with us and that goes

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further to the point with chat rooms and

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Facebook and social media and all that

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when we're not live on the air so

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definitely make a point to check out

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truth funders all across the board when

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you get a chance I want to get to our

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guests because last time we ran out of

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time so quickly that we need to jump

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right back into this hour again talking

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to chad and alta Dillard MJ if you could

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bring them up when we left off last week

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we had just got done talking about the

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regressions that Chad had gone into in

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uh in looking at the lost time

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experience that they had and he

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recounted for us the entire a kind of

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regression that process and what he had

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found after going into the regression

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process and when we left the show we

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were going to jump right back into a

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two-part question the first one which I

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want to get to immediately is what was

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it about last week's show that totally

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just inspired tears from both of you

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chad and alta as well as alta we were

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going to get into your recounting of the

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lost time and what you remember coming

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out of it or being in that middle zone

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you called it so to speak and hi by the

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way welcome to the show

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yes I thanks again for having us back we

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really enjoyed last week and can't wait

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to share some more neither can I&I what

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I do want to get straight into that that

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question I asked you about what it was

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about last week's show in our discussion

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that actually brought you guys to tears

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because that moved me right I mean that

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came out with in the last like two

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minutes of the show we didn't have any

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time to cover it I had no idea that

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there was something that had been said

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during the conversation that moved you

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guys so much and I'm really dying to

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know what that was so we can make sure

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and try and do it all over again tonight

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well you know kind of two different

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things there's a you know one that you

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know that our our book that out in a

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house especially has been working on so

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hard on this last few years is you know

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coming to you know yes coming you're

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you're helping that it yes you know for

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the first time really and it seems like

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forever that truly sincerity from both

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of you mark I can't even begin to thank

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you for your kindness for your

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generosity and time and effort with Chad

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and I it's just I mean it's very moving

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because we've hit a lot of brick walls

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and the idea that this is possibly

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really moving into a state of fruition

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is overwhelming for Chad night okay so I

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want to help out with like making that

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making that a reality for you guys I

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mean your story is so inspiring and just

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completely engaging that of course would

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be we want to do everything we can to

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help get it out there more in on a more

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permanent basis obviously yeah and it's

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it's it needs to be captured it's one of

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these stories that really needs to be

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captured in a book I would read this

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book hands down and the way you know

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last week when you guys were talking

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about about your experiences you know it

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was it was like a slow build-up and then

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by the time we got to seven o'clock you

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know

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cific standard time the it was on and

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you know that you guys got to the French

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Quarter and you were taken and you each

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had a different experience and you began

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to talk about your different experiences

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and Chad talked about his experience and

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and meeting blue beings and all this all

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the stuff and it's it's the kind of

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thing that a lot of people i think you

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know maybe they experience it and

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they're too afraid to come out and

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actually talk about it so by you guys

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coming together and and getting this

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book done and getting this book

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published it will be there and and way

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beyond your time it will live on so that

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other people who may experience

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something similar will have a way to

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connect or say wow this this should be

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studied or this is very important so we

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are so happy to help you and I wish that

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more people out there would you know

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feel free to reach out to us just go to

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choose funders calm and contact us or go

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to create a project and tell us a little

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bit about your project and and we'll

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reach back we really do care and we're

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we're happy to help we hope that the

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community reaches out and helps you guys

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as well and you've learnt so many shows

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you guys have been on some serious shows

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you know well you know shows with huge

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audiences from dark metal one radio the

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ones the one yes the the other ones too

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yeah and and it's uh it's your story has

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been out there and it's one of the

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things that people are talking about and

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everyone takes you seriously because the

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the story it's just so it's so detailed

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and inside think it's also your their

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willingness to say I don't know we don't

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know we just don't know I any question

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they don't actually know the answer to

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they don't try to make something up and

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and fill in an answer just for the sake

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of having something to say they just

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simply stay I don't know and again I

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stated this last week all this tested

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that again it's one of the most

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compelling things about their entire

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history is just the fact that they're so

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open to the idea of not knowing and

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still being in the process because this

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is an ongoing process probably going to

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be on going until the day you guys die

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hopefully that's no time soon but

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answers will continue to reveal

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absolutely again with just such

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gratitude from both of us to all of you

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that are you know putting yourselves out

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there to exist in in in reaching the

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goal of actually having this book

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published thank you it's just such a

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small word and I just don't know how to

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find bigger words to say that to all of

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you well why do our best buy at least

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giving them all at nice three hours of

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free content that can coincide with

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their donating to the book I mean look

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this is a show that will ultimately be a

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three hour interview uh if anything

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that's worth at least five bucks towards

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their project a truth lenders com I mean

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so so yeah so from from here you know I

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think didn't do we finish Chad's chats

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section of his busy time we got right to

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the end of it I believe great so now I

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guess yeah let's jump out altos altos

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experience with the missing time and the

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coming to because Alta you did state

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that there was a certain amount of

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memory or recollection that you

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maintained of being in that in-between

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zone was how are you call it the

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in-between zone of the Middle's of

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something like that right the between

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you no no no memory whatsoever of coming

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off the corner collectively the three of

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us Chad and I and Jacqueline remember

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around 11 ish pm and and then of course

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I have no memory of coming off that

538
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corner and I have no memory of how I'm

539
00:21:47,530 --> 00:21:44,420
returned home the next day but it is in

540
00:21:49,390 --> 00:21:47,540
fact indeed the next day just to kill

541
00:21:50,590 --> 00:21:49,400
everyone in we're talking about chad and

542
00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:50,600
alta and their friend Jacqueline's

543
00:21:53,950 --> 00:21:52,070
experience in the french corner in

544
00:21:55,260 --> 00:21:53,960
recorder rather in new orleans this

545
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:55,270
happened some years ago I believe it was

546
00:21:59,740 --> 00:21:57,530
1997 there was an experience of lost

547
00:22:01,480 --> 00:21:59,750
time that they had and around eleven

548
00:22:03,820 --> 00:22:01,490
o'clock is when things kind of shut down

549
00:22:05,050 --> 00:22:03,830
and then everybody came to the next day

550
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:05,060
in the morning and that's where we're

551
00:22:11,890 --> 00:22:08,330
picking it up now sorry about that right

552
00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:11,900
so in my case uh it appear

553
00:22:17,020 --> 00:22:14,240
that I'm the only one out of the three

554
00:22:20,140 --> 00:22:17,030
of us that has returned the next day

555
00:22:25,570 --> 00:22:20,150
with what I call memory of the between

556
00:22:28,450 --> 00:22:25,580
and in that memory it is a very profound

557
00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:28,460
memory it's not dream like it's not

558
00:22:35,380 --> 00:22:32,720
twilight zone like it is my reality and

559
00:22:37,330 --> 00:22:35,390
my reality one minute I'm on a street

560
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:37,340
corner the next thing I know I'm

561
00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:40,880
standing on the edge of a crater the

562
00:22:54,940 --> 00:22:51,520
crater is fairly deep a large crater and

563
00:22:56,380 --> 00:22:54,950
entering upon or here in on the planet

564
00:22:58,810 --> 00:22:56,390
Earth and where's the business crater

565
00:22:59,890 --> 00:22:58,820
like a desolate space or where is this

566
00:23:04,330 --> 00:22:59,900
crater at which it one of the

567
00:23:06,820 --> 00:23:04,340
surroundings like right so I have no

568
00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:06,830
idea if I'm on another planet or if I'm

569
00:23:12,430 --> 00:23:09,200
in the distant future of this planet or

570
00:23:16,450 --> 00:23:12,440
the distant past of this planet I have

571
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:16,460
no idea the coloring around me is like

572
00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:18,970
being in a black and white movie it's

573
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:26,750
Gray's black white blond as i say i'm

574
00:23:32,770 --> 00:23:28,930
standing on the edge of this crater it

575
00:23:34,990 --> 00:23:32,780
it looked but i have never said that

576
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:35,000
this is where I was because I don't know

577
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:38,290
but it looked like the old films of

578
00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:42,880
supposedly the moon landing interest on

579
00:23:49,950 --> 00:23:45,440
down in the center of this crater is a

580
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:49,960
metallic building or possibly a craft

581
00:23:57,490 --> 00:23:53,810
it's rectangle shaped it's very shiny

582
00:24:00,040 --> 00:23:57,500
and there's no movement down there at

583
00:24:01,390 --> 00:24:00,050
all of any kind but it's large enough to

584
00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:01,400
be a building I mean it's large enough

585
00:24:04,750 --> 00:24:03,200
that you can't distinguish as to whether

586
00:24:10,030 --> 00:24:04,760
or not it's a craft or an actual

587
00:24:13,420 --> 00:24:10,040
permanent structure exactly and around

588
00:24:17,620 --> 00:24:13,430
the perimeter of this crater are orbs of

589
00:24:21,310 --> 00:24:17,630
light when i first started speaking

590
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:21,320
about this it's almost as if it took

591
00:24:25,769 --> 00:24:23,210
more time for this to become more

592
00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:25,779
prominent to me these orbs of light

593
00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:29,120
seeing our self contained almost as if

594
00:24:37,990 --> 00:24:32,240
they were intelligent all around the

595
00:24:40,149 --> 00:24:38,000
circular top of this crater there was

596
00:24:43,299 --> 00:24:40,159
never any reaction between myself and

597
00:24:47,379 --> 00:24:43,309
the light it's just everything I'm

598
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:47,389
taking note of then I look behind me I

599
00:24:52,509 --> 00:24:49,970
kind of give it a little bit I don't

600
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:52,519
completely turn and behind me appear to

601
00:25:00,039 --> 00:24:56,090
be human looking people of different

602
00:25:02,110 --> 00:25:00,049
ages and somewhere I didn't take time to

603
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:02,120
really count but somewhere between three

604
00:25:08,289 --> 00:25:05,090
and five and they are stacked on there

605
00:25:12,009 --> 00:25:08,299
like dog pile on top of each other all

606
00:25:13,899 --> 00:25:12,019
are dressed nobody seems to be it is it

607
00:25:16,389 --> 00:25:13,909
they're in suspended animation nobody

608
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:16,399
seems to be distressed and nobody is

609
00:25:23,710 --> 00:25:19,610
moving I don't hear any sounds

610
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:23,720
whatsoever I turned my attention back to

611
00:25:33,490 --> 00:25:28,250
my immediate forward and all of a sudden

612
00:25:37,330 --> 00:25:33,500
then without any advance warning there

613
00:25:42,490 --> 00:25:37,340
is a being standing right next to me it

614
00:25:44,139 --> 00:25:42,500
is she's female she's relatively tall I

615
00:25:45,940 --> 00:25:44,149
would say well over six foot tall

616
00:25:50,139 --> 00:25:45,950
because I had to crank my head back

617
00:25:54,159 --> 00:25:50,149
somewhat to look up at her she is my

618
00:25:57,759 --> 00:25:54,169
ideal of perfection in terms of her

619
00:26:00,730 --> 00:25:57,769
physical beauty she is perfectly

620
00:26:07,299 --> 00:26:00,740
proportioned for her height she is

621
00:26:12,879 --> 00:26:07,309
wearing a body suit she has long blonde

622
00:26:19,419 --> 00:26:12,889
hair she is as beautiful internally as

623
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:19,429
she is externally I am so happy at that

624
00:26:25,629 --> 00:26:23,330
moment to be with her it's very

625
00:26:27,850 --> 00:26:25,639
difficult I'm somewhat stuttering trying

626
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:27,860
to always repeat this because it's so

627
00:26:33,159 --> 00:26:31,250
difficult to find the words of a form of

628
00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:33,169
ecstasy that I don't know how else to

629
00:26:37,509 --> 00:26:36,049
explain I think it was I rather pretty

630
00:26:39,610 --> 00:26:37,519
much the majority of people have

631
00:26:42,190 --> 00:26:39,620
experienced that feeling of elation

632
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:42,200
were you for ya that is just too big to

633
00:26:46,540 --> 00:26:43,850
put into words so even though you can't

634
00:26:48,790 --> 00:26:46,550
necessarily nail it in terms of the

635
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:48,800
overall weight and how substantial that

636
00:26:52,450 --> 00:26:50,480
feeling was I think everybody can at

637
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:52,460
least relate to feeling that way where

638
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:54,770
they can't describe the words so it's

639
00:26:57,970 --> 00:26:56,720
it's not too far off i mean i'm sure in

640
00:26:59,950 --> 00:26:57,980
this experience it was beyond anything

641
00:27:01,420 --> 00:26:59,960
even i've experienced but i think that

642
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:01,430
we've all experienced that at one point

643
00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:09,290
or another oh uh uh did did the woman

644
00:27:14,620 --> 00:27:12,340
look like was she wearing and this is

645
00:27:18,130 --> 00:27:14,630
this might sound like a funny comparison

646
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:18,140
but but I'm kind of a nerd so I'm into

647
00:27:22,450 --> 00:27:20,450
pop culture and and dorky things so

648
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:22,460
please forgive me i am not making light

649
00:27:29,950 --> 00:27:24,650
of it at all but did she look like um

650
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:29,960
lara croft from tomb raider or or if not

651
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:31,610
describe describe the physical like

652
00:27:35,530 --> 00:27:33,410
nature of her like what she you know

653
00:27:38,770 --> 00:27:35,540
hair color body type of what did she

654
00:27:40,750 --> 00:27:38,780
well she said she said blonde hair and a

655
00:27:43,330 --> 00:27:40,760
it was like a body suit was it like a

656
00:27:46,330 --> 00:27:43,340
leather body suit was it just like a

657
00:27:50,530 --> 00:27:46,340
one-piece thing like was it a different

658
00:27:53,950 --> 00:27:50,540
type of material right she was wearing

659
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:53,960
what appeared to be best explained with

660
00:27:59,290 --> 00:27:56,720
and forgive me because I I don't I don't

661
00:28:03,190 --> 00:27:59,300
know who Laura Croft is I've never seen

662
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:03,200
any of these movies uh it appears to be

663
00:28:11,410 --> 00:28:08,410
like a spandex bodysuit that is

664
00:28:15,669 --> 00:28:11,420
difficult even described that it was

665
00:28:17,770 --> 00:28:15,679
separate from her skin a color wise as

666
00:28:21,070 --> 00:28:17,780
they said she'd a coloring it's like

667
00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:21,080
being in a black and white movie her

668
00:28:26,530 --> 00:28:23,510
hair was long past her shoulders and

669
00:28:35,290 --> 00:28:26,540
very blonde how old I don't have someone

670
00:28:39,730 --> 00:28:35,300
our age wise in late 20s so like he is a

671
00:28:42,790 --> 00:28:39,740
for an attractive woman obviously she

672
00:28:46,990 --> 00:28:42,800
I've had folks in the past ask me about

673
00:28:49,570 --> 00:28:47,000
eye color and such uh Jimmy church

674
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:49,580
actually asked me one time on air when

675
00:28:53,539 --> 00:28:52,730
he had his call call in briefly was she

676
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:53,549
wearing make

677
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:55,289
and I found that a fascinating question

678
00:29:02,869 --> 00:28:58,320
I wish we had more of these questions in

679
00:29:06,049 --> 00:29:02,879
all honesty I was so happy to be with

680
00:29:08,930 --> 00:29:06,059
her that I didn't pay attention to her

681
00:29:12,129 --> 00:29:08,940
eye color whether she had makeup on I

682
00:29:14,210 --> 00:29:12,139
good influence or anything like that

683
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:14,220
absolutely none of this made a bit of

684
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:17,279
difference to me I they said it's so

685
00:29:22,249 --> 00:29:19,710
difficult to describe that i was i was

686
00:29:24,379 --> 00:29:22,259
just so high i said this before also if

687
00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:24,389
i was a puppy my tail with constantly

688
00:29:31,129 --> 00:29:29,129
and wagging I was just so happy and I

689
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:31,139
article ii attracted to her or was it

690
00:29:35,060 --> 00:29:33,210
more like a spiritual attraction like a

691
00:29:36,379 --> 00:29:35,070
friendship attraction what what were the

692
00:29:41,479 --> 00:29:36,389
levels of attraction that you were

693
00:29:46,430 --> 00:29:41,489
experiencing I way beyond any of those

694
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:46,440
words I don't know the length I maybe

695
00:29:52,669 --> 00:29:48,480
this may help I don't know probably not

696
00:29:54,859 --> 00:29:52,679
but I clearly felt I was home I felt

697
00:29:57,289 --> 00:29:54,869
that I was a ball it was a bond there's

698
00:30:00,549 --> 00:29:57,299
one of those you know I I hear that from

699
00:30:04,700 --> 00:30:00,559
a lot of people who have experienced

700
00:30:07,549 --> 00:30:04,710
near-death experiences that they meet

701
00:30:11,869 --> 00:30:07,559
while they're out of it they meet beings

702
00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:11,879
that made them feel so at peace and so

703
00:30:19,399 --> 00:30:16,049
at home and so woman fuzzy that they

704
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:19,409
they did not want to leave and actually

705
00:30:22,820 --> 00:30:21,690
I was like common I would like to put

706
00:30:24,529 --> 00:30:22,830
the phone number out and ask anybody

707
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:24,539
who's out there if they've had a similar

708
00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:25,919
experience or if they've seen something

709
00:30:31,369 --> 00:30:28,799
similar to it Alton is describing 88 89

710
00:30:34,430 --> 00:30:31,379
1923 55 is the telephone number here at

711
00:30:36,769 --> 00:30:34,440
truth funders radio 88 89 1923 55 we

712
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need to take a short break but we will

713
00:30:40,820 --> 00:30:38,700
make it a quick one and we will be right

714
00:30:42,379 --> 00:30:40,830
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715
00:30:43,999 --> 00:30:42,389
chad and alta Dillard again their

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794
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schwartz our guests are Chad in Alta

795
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Dillard 88 89 1923 55 is the telephone

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number you can use skype to call in as

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for chad and also mark and myself 888 91

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92 355 i would say if you do call in and

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and we we love that but just please be

801
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respectful because chad and alta that

802
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they've had this experience and they are

803
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sharing it with us out of the goodness

804
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807
00:35:22,270 --> 00:35:21,080
moment they're not as far as I'm

808
00:35:23,950 --> 00:35:22,280
concerned the moment or not I hit that

809
00:35:25,630 --> 00:35:23,960
button or NJ headset button rather and

810
00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:25,640
they're gone MJ knows he knows as soon

811
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:26,960
as anybody starts trying to get fresh

812
00:35:29,890 --> 00:35:28,610
with any of our guests they just get cut

813
00:35:31,210 --> 00:35:29,900
off so there's no point even really

814
00:35:32,410 --> 00:35:31,220
trying because we're just gonna move on

815
00:35:33,970 --> 00:35:32,420
and we're not going to give you the time

816
00:35:35,710 --> 00:35:33,980
of the day or even really dignify your

817
00:35:37,810 --> 00:35:35,720
lack of respect with any kind of

818
00:35:40,060 --> 00:35:37,820
acknowledgement so well and I think you

819
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:40,070
can ask a skeptical question that's

820
00:35:47,340 --> 00:35:42,650
totally fine as long as it's in good

821
00:35:50,230 --> 00:35:47,350
nature totally cool so ultimate you

822
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:50,240
don't jump out and I sort of the

823
00:35:55,540 --> 00:35:53,170
favorite skeptical you know that we know

824
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:55,550
we're always doubting you're not going

825
00:35:58,960 --> 00:35:57,170
to out skeptic chat and alta they'll go

826
00:36:03,250 --> 00:35:58,970
toe-to-toe with you you were trying out

827
00:36:04,990 --> 00:36:03,260
skeptic them go nuts I don't don't go in

828
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:05,000
the ring with you so alter this woman I

829
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:07,010
now so she's standing how far away from

830
00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:08,930
you where did you say she's standing and

831
00:36:12,130 --> 00:36:10,910
it what what kind of proximity and the

832
00:36:13,990 --> 00:36:12,140
surroundings are this crater and all

833
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:14,000
that put us back in paint the picture

834
00:36:20,770 --> 00:36:18,800
visually if you come so she is all of a

835
00:36:24,010 --> 00:36:20,780
sudden she just appears as i said i

836
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:24,020
pivoted back after looking at the folks

837
00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:27,650
that were just a few feet behind me I I

838
00:36:35,470 --> 00:36:30,910
might add also I had no concern for them

839
00:36:38,650 --> 00:36:35,480
which is just so strange in this

840
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:38,660
consciousness but when i pivoted what I

841
00:36:42,849 --> 00:36:39,170
turn

842
00:36:46,660 --> 00:36:42,859
back to face that crater she was there

843
00:36:50,609 --> 00:36:46,670
and her proximity was literally I right

844
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:50,619
up against my side we were side to side

845
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:55,010
although I was shorter she is I said she

846
00:37:00,190 --> 00:36:56,930
was relatively much taller than I was

847
00:37:02,740 --> 00:37:00,200
but we were literally side by side by

848
00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:02,750
described her as what's commonly been to

849
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:04,880
referred to as the Nordics that that

850
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:07,490
kind of tall blonde on pale Nordic

851
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:10,010
looking sort of group that has been

852
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:11,930
tossed around in you apology for years

853
00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:15,410
and years again I've never used that

854
00:37:22,359 --> 00:37:19,280
language I don't you basically use any

855
00:37:24,069 --> 00:37:22,369
of the common language that I hear that

856
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:24,079
you know for the sake of the

857
00:37:29,260 --> 00:37:26,690
conversation I would say just by

858
00:37:31,690 --> 00:37:29,270
description probably yes I've never

859
00:37:36,430 --> 00:37:31,700
referred to her as Nordic for Nordic

860
00:37:40,359 --> 00:37:36,440
type if I might also add I have not said

861
00:37:43,210 --> 00:37:40,369
this very often it at all maybe a time

862
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:43,220
or two and interviews but I had a very

863
00:37:49,180 --> 00:37:46,490
strong sense that I was without sounding

864
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:49,190
of any conceit whatsoever and I mean

865
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:52,400
that so sincerely I truly felt that I

866
00:37:59,049 --> 00:37:57,650
was with an extension of myself I think

867
00:38:01,089 --> 00:37:59,059
that people have experienced out-of-body

868
00:38:02,620 --> 00:38:01,099
experiences can relate to that I you

869
00:38:04,329 --> 00:38:02,630
know it's it's almost like like you said

870
00:38:06,670 --> 00:38:04,339
you were looking into what you felt was

871
00:38:08,859 --> 00:38:06,680
home and I could see how it was almost

872
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:08,869
when you're not necessarily looking into

873
00:38:13,059 --> 00:38:11,210
a mirror but you are looking into an

874
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:13,069
extension of the oneness that we all

875
00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:15,770
share in such a potent and concentrated

876
00:38:22,650 --> 00:38:17,569
way that it's almost slapping you in the

877
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:22,660
face so to speak absolutely so as I am

878
00:38:30,579 --> 00:38:28,010
in this state of beyond any feeling I've

879
00:38:34,180 --> 00:38:30,589
ever had before I never thought of Chad

880
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:34,190
I never thought of Jacqueline my puppies

881
00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:39,609
at home again I felt I was home and so

882
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:42,049
it never entered my mind if anything

883
00:38:47,289 --> 00:38:44,210
other than what I was experiencing in

884
00:38:49,660 --> 00:38:47,299
that moment I then looked up now there's

885
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:49,670
no interaction between her and I as far

886
00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:53,090
as language or communication I look

887
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:55,760
but I my head stretches back and I'm

888
00:39:02,530 --> 00:38:58,400
looking now up into the sky it's a black

889
00:39:05,820 --> 00:39:02,540
sky with what appear to look like to me

890
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:05,830
of course they're stars but they were so

891
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:08,510
magnified beautiful as if they were

892
00:39:17,950 --> 00:39:14,210
truly diamonds in the sky I am fallen in

893
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:17,960
his native little warm exactly you know

894
00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:20,930
very likely could have been and in this

895
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:24,710
state of bliss that I'm experiencing I'm

896
00:39:28,570 --> 00:39:27,110
from Arizona originally the southwest

897
00:39:33,370 --> 00:39:28,580
and to me there's nothing more beautiful

898
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:33,380
than a southwestern sky I'm having those

899
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:35,330
kinds of emotions as I'm looking up into

900
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:38,930
the sky then all of a sudden one of

901
00:39:45,340 --> 00:39:42,110
those beautiful stars began to move and

902
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:45,350
it started across the sky I remember

903
00:39:50,890 --> 00:39:47,690
very clearly going from a state of

904
00:39:54,820 --> 00:39:50,900
ecstasy to moving into a state of terror

905
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:54,830
I almost just that fast my heart began

906
00:39:59,290 --> 00:39:57,680
to race very quickly as if it was going

907
00:40:04,630 --> 00:39:59,300
to beat out of my chest I became very

908
00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:04,640
afraid because it bagged it went across

909
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:06,800
the sky and then exact and then another

910
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:10,970
joined in with it and in this in this

911
00:40:19,180 --> 00:40:15,050
moment of change I'm becoming so afraid

912
00:40:20,860 --> 00:40:19,190
she spoke to me telepathically in a

913
00:40:23,830 --> 00:40:20,870
voice that I'll never be able to

914
00:40:26,260 --> 00:40:23,840
duplicate it was so beautiful it is so

915
00:40:28,590 --> 00:40:26,270
beautiful and what she said if she

916
00:40:31,930 --> 00:40:28,600
called me by name and she said outer

917
00:40:36,460 --> 00:40:31,940
don't be afraid they're just scanning

918
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:36,470
you and in that very last expression I

919
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:39,770
then woke up it's the next day I'm

920
00:40:45,250 --> 00:40:42,410
sitting cross Lake Indian style as I do

921
00:40:47,140 --> 00:40:45,260
when I'm at home private on my day bed

922
00:40:49,690 --> 00:40:47,150
in my living room and sunshine is

923
00:40:52,540 --> 00:40:49,700
blaring through my windows I'm rubbing

924
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:52,550
my arms I can feel something in my upper

925
00:41:01,060 --> 00:40:57,370
arm and I am looking around my house

926
00:41:03,820 --> 00:41:01,070
just losing my mind because where is

927
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:03,830
Chad where is Jacqueline they were

928
00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:06,890
nowhere in my sight and again

929
00:41:11,620 --> 00:41:08,720
and I've got an object now in my upper

930
00:41:13,390 --> 00:41:11,630
on that I have to deal with and could

931
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:13,400
you immediately tell the object was

932
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:14,930
there or was that something that you

933
00:41:20,259 --> 00:41:18,170
discovered after the fact no it was

934
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:20,269
immediate because as I'm rubbing my arms

935
00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:23,200
as one might do when they're waking up

936
00:41:30,359 --> 00:41:26,960
this object had they had a protrusion

937
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:30,369
from it that felt like a piece of passes

938
00:41:36,279 --> 00:41:33,410
it was sharp with my hand ran over it

939
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:36,289
like a cactus needle tiny casas needle

940
00:41:43,690 --> 00:41:40,250
but I remember very distinctly knowing

941
00:41:45,759 --> 00:41:43,700
feeling like why doesn't this hurt this

942
00:41:47,140 --> 00:41:45,769
doesn't make any sense there's no logic

943
00:41:50,650 --> 00:41:47,150
something you're sticking out of my arm

944
00:41:54,130 --> 00:41:50,660
its timing but it's sharp and my hand is

945
00:41:56,559 --> 00:41:54,140
you catching as it you can actually see

946
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:56,569
you can actually see these photos that

947
00:42:01,839 --> 00:41:59,200
all just talking about if you go to

948
00:42:05,049 --> 00:42:01,849
truth funders calm and you click on

949
00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:05,059
their project and you can see the x-ray

950
00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:07,250
and and I want to talk to you about this

951
00:42:12,910 --> 00:42:09,710
and this is the same one that you're

952
00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:12,920
describing right you got an x-ray of of

953
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:15,710
what you felt and it showed up in this

954
00:42:21,130 --> 00:42:19,130
x-ray that's right i have another i've

955
00:42:23,049 --> 00:42:21,140
had another experience and i have i call

956
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:23,059
these unknowns I've never referred to

957
00:42:27,249 --> 00:42:24,650
them as implants because I have no

958
00:42:29,259 --> 00:42:27,259
memory of them being implanted so I've

959
00:42:31,210 --> 00:42:29,269
always called them unknown I have it

960
00:42:33,490 --> 00:42:31,220
I've had another experience since then

961
00:42:36,309 --> 00:42:33,500
or I have another object that's in my

962
00:42:38,380 --> 00:42:36,319
wrist it won't take an x-ray but it has

963
00:42:40,779 --> 00:42:38,390
been detected on ultrasound but those

964
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:40,789
x-ray films those pictures you have are

965
00:42:46,809 --> 00:42:43,490
that first object that's in my upper arm

966
00:42:50,799 --> 00:42:46,819
and it's still there right so it is

967
00:42:53,319 --> 00:42:50,809
filled in so when you want a doctor and

968
00:42:58,930 --> 00:42:53,329
you got an x-ray what did the doctor say

969
00:43:00,759 --> 00:42:58,940
or what was their explanation for it we

970
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:00,769
this is when I'm very grateful that Chad

971
00:43:03,940 --> 00:43:01,970
and I have finally come to the

972
00:43:06,460 --> 00:43:03,950
conclusion to write this book and now

973
00:43:08,529 --> 00:43:06,470
try to get this published because it's

974
00:43:11,049 --> 00:43:08,539
quite mind-blowing and nobody has ever

975
00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:11,059
believed us when we've tried to explain

976
00:43:16,029 --> 00:43:12,710
what happened to us when we went to the

977
00:43:20,130 --> 00:43:16,039
doctor there's a lot to that story that

978
00:43:22,650 --> 00:43:20,140
I it suffice to say that

979
00:43:25,860 --> 00:43:22,660
the object chose to not take a picture

980
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:25,870
it was not x-ray the first two times now

981
00:43:30,180 --> 00:43:27,490
here is an object that's just underneath

982
00:43:32,910 --> 00:43:30,190
the top layer of skin that can be felt

983
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:32,920
by fingers you know you can actually

984
00:43:38,670 --> 00:43:35,680
feel its diameter it's its width for the

985
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:38,680
most part it does seem or appear to

986
00:43:44,610 --> 00:43:41,920
change shape it clearly moves I can't

987
00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:44,620
feel that thank God but because I don't

988
00:43:49,830 --> 00:43:46,960
know what I would do then but it will

989
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:49,840
bury itself down to the bone if it

990
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:54,130
chooses to will protrude in my outfit

991
00:44:01,350 --> 00:43:56,290
where it literally stands out on my arm

992
00:44:04,830 --> 00:44:01,360
like a big bug bite a lump but the first

993
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:04,840
time that the x-ray tech tried to take a

994
00:44:09,330 --> 00:44:06,370
picture of it it refused to take a

995
00:44:12,780 --> 00:44:09,340
picture all it would give was a skeletal

996
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:12,790
picture of my arm with nothing showing

997
00:44:20,820 --> 00:44:17,410
there now she began to get quite freaked

998
00:44:22,910 --> 00:44:20,830
out to put it mildly and by the third

999
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:22,920
time I couldn't take it anymore I

1000
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:26,880
literally said to the heavens I said

1001
00:44:33,810 --> 00:44:30,490
give me a break I have to have this

1002
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:33,820
picture I've gone through I've gone

1003
00:44:40,590 --> 00:44:36,130
through a lot of Jedi both aren't you a

1004
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:40,600
lot of trauma over this so anyhow it

1005
00:44:45,390 --> 00:44:43,330
finally whatever is going on here

1006
00:44:50,610 --> 00:44:45,400
finally gave me a break and gave me that

1007
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:50,620
film that we sent you he handed them to

1008
00:44:58,590 --> 00:44:55,090
be on yet it now and it is it is I see

1009
00:44:59,940 --> 00:44:58,600
exactly what you're talking about I've

1010
00:45:02,160 --> 00:44:59,950
always thought that it looks you know

1011
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:02,170
extremely mundane just looking at it in

1012
00:45:09,060 --> 00:45:04,930
the film but its properties and its

1013
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:09,070
behavior is it's very hard to try to

1014
00:45:14,370 --> 00:45:12,610
tell not just looking at this x-ray and

1015
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:14,380
that it is it is something that does not

1016
00:45:20,010 --> 00:45:16,720
belong there I mean in an average

1017
00:45:22,140 --> 00:45:20,020
person's arm x-ray you see your bone you

1018
00:45:26,910 --> 00:45:22,150
see your arm and you see this this dot

1019
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:26,920
the spec and it's it's evident and it's

1020
00:45:32,370 --> 00:45:30,400
print ready it's pretty nuts and this is

1021
00:45:34,050 --> 00:45:32,380
some good proof so did you just go to

1022
00:45:37,650 --> 00:45:34,060
one doctor or did you go to several

1023
00:45:41,370 --> 00:45:37,660
doctors about this I went to the

1024
00:45:46,740 --> 00:45:41,380
original doctor that that was arranged

1025
00:45:48,330 --> 00:45:46,750
by a MUFON group a UFO group this as I

1026
00:45:54,900 --> 00:45:48,340
said there's a great deal to this story

1027
00:45:58,590 --> 00:45:54,910
that doctor I was asked to get a second

1028
00:46:00,330 --> 00:45:58,600
picture and when we tried to make

1029
00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:00,340
arrangements with that doctor to get the

1030
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:03,040
second x rays a doctor had told his

1031
00:46:07,710 --> 00:46:05,440
nurse or whoever answers his phone makes

1032
00:46:11,940 --> 00:46:07,720
his appointment to tell us that he was

1033
00:46:14,430 --> 00:46:11,950
out of the country I refused to accept

1034
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:14,440
that it was about a two-hour drive for

1035
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:16,210
Chad Knight and make that trip to this

1036
00:46:21,180 --> 00:46:18,850
doctor we literally went back in his

1037
00:46:22,740 --> 00:46:21,190
office my behavior is embarrassing

1038
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:22,750
because I would never do these things

1039
00:46:29,790 --> 00:46:26,410
again but I was so angry that we were

1040
00:46:33,210 --> 00:46:29,800
being denied help that sad and I drove

1041
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:33,220
back and me he made us late for eight

1042
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:36,160
hours and then finally realized I was

1043
00:46:42,780 --> 00:46:38,890
not leaving well I could get that second

1044
00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:42,790
picture I might also add because time is

1045
00:46:49,530 --> 00:46:45,910
so short that a great deal of course to

1046
00:46:51,660 --> 00:46:49,540
the discovery of this and my arm but it

1047
00:46:54,900 --> 00:46:51,670
was when Chad woke up because Chad was

1048
00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:54,910
thank God at home when I finally came

1049
00:47:01,350 --> 00:46:57,760
out of the bathroom realizing that this

1050
00:47:05,490 --> 00:47:01,360
object was truly in my arm when Chad

1051
00:47:07,950 --> 00:47:05,500
woke up he was pleading with me in a

1052
00:47:10,380 --> 00:47:07,960
silent way to explain what had happened

1053
00:47:12,990 --> 00:47:10,390
to us the night before and of course I'm

1054
00:47:15,570 --> 00:47:13,000
in shock and I'm in trauma I can't

1055
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:15,580
explain anything and Chad walked around

1056
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:19,330
me and saw that I had very strange

1057
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:22,330
handprints around both my arms as if I

1058
00:47:26,850 --> 00:47:23,850
had been held or grabbed from behind

1059
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:26,860
these handprints were only four digit

1060
00:47:31,590 --> 00:47:29,410
and they were extremely long and they

1061
00:47:34,590 --> 00:47:31,600
wrapped around both my arms they only

1062
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:34,600
lasted about a day or so I've had many

1063
00:47:39,690 --> 00:47:37,330
people asked about pictures I can

1064
00:47:41,940 --> 00:47:39,700
guarantee you in 1997 we were not

1065
00:47:43,860 --> 00:47:41,950
thinking about taking photos of anything

1066
00:47:48,019 --> 00:47:43,870
or ever telling anybody that could

1067
00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:48,029
happen to us so there are no total two

1068
00:47:56,430 --> 00:47:52,960
mm-hmm what's crazy about that is I had

1069
00:47:58,319 --> 00:47:56,440
the same marks on my arm a week ago I

1070
00:48:04,019 --> 00:47:58,329
got out of the shower and I realized

1071
00:48:07,319 --> 00:48:04,029
that I had for long red marks on my arm

1072
00:48:10,410 --> 00:48:07,329
and the reason why I even noticed it was

1073
00:48:13,049 --> 00:48:10,420
because when I was doing research for

1074
00:48:14,430 --> 00:48:13,059
your show you know I listened to listen

1075
00:48:18,420 --> 00:48:14,440
to you guys on a couple of different

1076
00:48:20,249 --> 00:48:18,430
radio stations and and I tried to not

1077
00:48:22,529 --> 00:48:20,259
even think about it I try to just put it

1078
00:48:24,539 --> 00:48:22,539
out I was gonna take a picture and then

1079
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:24,549
I thought no I'll just I just won't even

1080
00:48:32,819 --> 00:48:28,319
I just wanted to think about it but um

1081
00:48:35,579 --> 00:48:32,829
it was I I feel like I can relate to you

1082
00:48:38,220 --> 00:48:35,589
in that particular way there was just

1083
00:48:40,289 --> 00:48:38,230
something strange about about those mark

1084
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:40,299
that's totally that so it's really

1085
00:48:44,220 --> 00:48:42,130
interesting that you said that so in the

1086
00:48:46,979 --> 00:48:44,230
interest of time also now so you you

1087
00:48:49,140 --> 00:48:46,989
come to and you find that you have this

1088
00:48:50,999 --> 00:48:49,150
unknown in your arm and you're by

1089
00:48:53,670 --> 00:48:51,009
yourself at this point at what point do

1090
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:53,680
you reconnect with Chad and Jacqueline

1091
00:48:58,289 --> 00:48:55,599
is it immediately after the fact or is

1092
00:49:00,120 --> 00:48:58,299
there any amount of time that elapses

1093
00:49:01,979 --> 00:49:00,130
between then what what's the next thing

1094
00:49:05,130 --> 00:49:01,989
that happens after this and it kind of

1095
00:49:06,900 --> 00:49:05,140
wrap up when this it all ties up but so

1096
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:06,910
we can move on to the next part of the

1097
00:49:13,380 --> 00:49:09,690
story because there continues to be more

1098
00:49:16,259 --> 00:49:13,390
so it was within probably about an hour

1099
00:49:19,529 --> 00:49:16,269
after I because I didn't wake up I came

1100
00:49:22,319 --> 00:49:19,539
to and I'm in the bathroom as I said

1101
00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:22,329
going through my own trauma with this in

1102
00:49:26,670 --> 00:49:24,609
my arm so on and so forth it was within

1103
00:49:29,579 --> 00:49:26,680
and probably about an hour so that Chad

1104
00:49:31,950 --> 00:49:29,589
then when you all come to are you in a

1105
00:49:34,859 --> 00:49:31,960
panic are you calmed what what what are

1106
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:34,869
you experiencing emotion wise when right

1107
00:49:37,950 --> 00:49:36,400
after the fact that you're kind of

1108
00:49:40,049 --> 00:49:37,960
coming to and regaining your

1109
00:49:43,979 --> 00:49:40,059
consciousness in terms of existing on

1110
00:49:47,069 --> 00:49:43,989
this plane anyway my eyes popped open

1111
00:49:50,970 --> 00:49:47,079
I'm sitting straight up cross-legged as

1112
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:50,980
I said when my eyes pop open I'm

1113
00:49:59,309 --> 00:49:54,609
instantly now i'm still in the memory of

1114
00:50:01,799 --> 00:49:59,319
her and that creator and when my eyes

1115
00:50:05,479 --> 00:50:01,809
pop open I

1116
00:50:11,459 --> 00:50:05,489
moving from that and the last memory of

1117
00:50:14,969 --> 00:50:11,469
care with those stars moving to I began

1118
00:50:17,549 --> 00:50:14,979
looking around my house realizing

1119
00:50:20,939 --> 00:50:17,559
instantly I'm in my house it's the next

1120
00:50:24,179 --> 00:50:20,949
day oh my god where is Chad where is

1121
00:50:29,699 --> 00:50:24,189
Jacqueline but at that same moment i'm

1122
00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:29,709
feeling this in my upper arm and I see a

1123
00:50:34,289 --> 00:50:32,529
lump in my bed from where I could fit I

1124
00:50:36,599 --> 00:50:34,299
could see into my bedroom and I saw a

1125
00:50:40,859 --> 00:50:36,609
lump in my bed praying that that lump

1126
00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:40,869
was mine meaning Chad had no idea about

1127
00:50:45,809 --> 00:50:43,689
Jacqueline my consciousness like concern

1128
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:45,819
is immediately about both of them but I

1129
00:50:51,359 --> 00:50:48,640
see the lump praying it's chad rather

1130
00:50:53,489 --> 00:50:51,369
than running to the lump in the bed

1131
00:50:56,099 --> 00:50:53,499
because he had the blankie he had the

1132
00:50:58,349 --> 00:50:56,109
blankets pulled over his head so all I

1133
00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:58,359
saw was a long body or a long lump

1134
00:51:02,819 --> 00:51:00,880
laying in the bed I go into the bathroom

1135
00:51:05,699 --> 00:51:02,829
immediately because it's just right

1136
00:51:07,709 --> 00:51:05,709
there where my David set the entrance

1137
00:51:10,469 --> 00:51:07,719
into the bathroom that's where I

1138
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:10,479
immediately go to to try to deal with

1139
00:51:15,870 --> 00:51:13,839
what's in my upper arm when I come out

1140
00:51:18,959 --> 00:51:15,880
of the bathroom about the same time

1141
00:51:21,479 --> 00:51:18,969
within an hour chad is waking up and

1142
00:51:26,449 --> 00:51:21,489
getting out of bed coming towards me in

1143
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:26,459
a very puzzled you know groggy

1144
00:51:33,569 --> 00:51:29,650
expression on his face and as I said he

1145
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:33,579
was silently I felt begging me to tell

1146
00:51:38,189 --> 00:51:35,410
him how we had gotten home the night

1147
00:51:42,749 --> 00:51:38,199
before and what had happened to us so

1148
00:51:45,839 --> 00:51:42,759
he's lying answers exactly were both

1149
00:51:49,679 --> 00:51:45,849
looking to the each other to explain

1150
00:51:52,259 --> 00:51:49,689
what happened to us Chad walks around me

1151
00:51:55,140 --> 00:51:52,269
and because I was so busy with the

1152
00:51:57,299 --> 00:51:55,150
trauma of the front of my body I wasn't

1153
00:51:59,429 --> 00:51:57,309
bothering to check out the rest of my

1154
00:52:01,799 --> 00:51:59,439
body is again there's much more to that

1155
00:52:05,069 --> 00:52:01,809
about this object in my upper arm as

1156
00:52:08,729 --> 00:52:05,079
Chad walks around me he is the one who

1157
00:52:12,029 --> 00:52:08,739
discovered these handprints on the backs

1158
00:52:14,939 --> 00:52:12,039
wrapped around both my arms now

1159
00:52:17,709 --> 00:52:14,949
Jacqueline is missing and I might

1160
00:52:20,620 --> 00:52:17,719
Jacqueline speed missing to Chad knife

1161
00:52:23,709 --> 00:52:20,630
for two days so I can't even begin to

1162
00:52:27,279 --> 00:52:23,719
describe I've tried desperately and

1163
00:52:30,729 --> 00:52:27,289
writing this book to describe the fear

1164
00:52:33,279 --> 00:52:30,739
that he and I were going through I you

1165
00:52:35,799 --> 00:52:33,289
call Jacqueline no you call Jack or no

1166
00:52:38,469 --> 00:52:35,809
I'm not calling you call we were just

1167
00:52:43,029 --> 00:52:38,479
doing this dance back and forth because

1168
00:52:46,419 --> 00:52:43,039
we were so afraid finally Jacqueline and

1169
00:52:49,029 --> 00:52:46,429
I saw each other she chose to stay

1170
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:49,039
silent for a couple of days trying to

1171
00:52:53,529 --> 00:52:51,650
process what happened to her wow so for

1172
00:52:54,939 --> 00:52:53,539
at least 48 hours you guys are

1173
00:52:57,039 --> 00:52:54,949
completely in the dark as to what

1174
00:52:58,569 --> 00:52:57,049
happened to her and you're so just taken

1175
00:53:00,189 --> 00:52:58,579
aback by everything that's happened that

1176
00:53:01,929 --> 00:53:00,199
the fear has rooted you in a position

1177
00:53:03,339 --> 00:53:01,939
that you're not even reaching out to her

1178
00:53:07,269 --> 00:53:03,349
you're just waiting to calm down

1179
00:53:10,439 --> 00:53:07,279
essentially that's crazy absolutely it's

1180
00:53:14,219 --> 00:53:10,449
insane I would not wish this on anyone

1181
00:53:18,339 --> 00:53:14,229
not on anyone when Jacqueline finally

1182
00:53:20,229 --> 00:53:18,349
surfaced she handling it very

1183
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:20,239
differently because again at the time

1184
00:53:25,929 --> 00:53:22,249
that this happened Jacqueline was 24

1185
00:53:28,899 --> 00:53:25,939
Chad was 30 and I had just turned 40 so

1186
00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:28,909
I to me we were all different

1187
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:31,849
individuals but I just sensed and that's

1188
00:53:37,479 --> 00:53:34,130
all I can say is that i sent she just

1189
00:53:39,429 --> 00:53:37,489
chose to handle it very differently she

1190
00:53:41,559 --> 00:53:39,439
accepts what happens to her what

1191
00:53:43,539 --> 00:53:41,569
happened to her she has chosen to never

1192
00:53:45,729 --> 00:53:43,549
go public with this herself that has

1193
00:53:48,219 --> 00:53:45,739
given us permission to speak on her

1194
00:53:51,519 --> 00:53:48,229
behalf and have since gotten a college

1195
00:53:55,899 --> 00:53:51,529
degree and in environmental sciences she

1196
00:53:58,479 --> 00:53:55,909
is very science rooted but uh accepts

1197
00:54:01,929 --> 00:53:58,489
what happened to her and has just moved

1198
00:54:05,049 --> 00:54:01,939
on with it you know I use the word that

1199
00:54:06,999 --> 00:54:05,059
she chose to a handle it a different way

1200
00:54:09,249 --> 00:54:07,009
because ultimately I think everything

1201
00:54:10,509 --> 00:54:09,259
comes down to a choice literally what

1202
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:10,519
you do with emotions as a choice

1203
00:54:14,829 --> 00:54:12,890
everything ultimately at the end of the

1204
00:54:16,329 --> 00:54:14,839
day is going to be a choice and the fact

1205
00:54:18,039 --> 00:54:16,339
that you recognize that she chose to

1206
00:54:19,630 --> 00:54:18,049
handle that way it wasn't that she was

1207
00:54:21,489 --> 00:54:19,640
affected so much that she couldn't

1208
00:54:23,859 --> 00:54:21,499
decide how to handle it but she did

1209
00:54:25,089 --> 00:54:23,869
choose to handle that way I appreciate

1210
00:54:26,469 --> 00:54:25,099
and acknowledge you doing that because

1211
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:26,479
that makes a lot of sense to me as well

1212
00:54:28,810 --> 00:54:27,440
and

1213
00:54:31,180 --> 00:54:28,820
also are you still in touch with

1214
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:31,190
Jacqueline are you still friends or did

1215
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:35,090
this end your your friendship no we are

1216
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:38,930
still connected that's great not not

1217
00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:42,170
often she's long distance of course and

1218
00:54:48,460 --> 00:54:45,710
Chad and I travel now but we are still

1219
00:54:49,690 --> 00:54:48,470
connected and love Jacqueline deeply and

1220
00:54:51,310 --> 00:54:49,700
it's just like picking up where you left

1221
00:54:52,690 --> 00:54:51,320
off I'm sure every time you do get to

1222
00:54:54,370 --> 00:54:52,700
reconnect with or whether it be in

1223
00:54:56,020 --> 00:54:54,380
person or be a telephone or whatever

1224
00:54:59,230 --> 00:54:56,030
form of communication you choose today

1225
00:55:01,290 --> 00:54:59,240
I'm sure there's there's no time lost no

1226
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:01,300
pun intended but it's just like it was

1227
00:55:11,500 --> 00:55:07,010
1997 all over and and also all tonight I

1228
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:11,510
just want to say I'm sorry I did I just

1229
00:55:15,730 --> 00:55:13,010
want to say this real quick while we've

1230
00:55:18,610 --> 00:55:15,740
been on the phone I've donated to your

1231
00:55:21,250 --> 00:55:18,620
campaign and you got a donation from MJ

1232
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:21,260
as well and so just while we've been

1233
00:55:25,690 --> 00:55:23,450
doing this interview you've there's been

1234
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:25,700
forty dollars contributed towards your

1235
00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:28,370
campaign to get your book public so

1236
00:55:34,330 --> 00:55:31,520
hopefully you know with more time and if

1237
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:34,340
people out there if you have the

1238
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:36,650
opportunity some people you don't have

1239
00:55:40,330 --> 00:55:39,110
the money and that's okay hey um you

1240
00:55:42,550 --> 00:55:40,340
know if you just share this on your

1241
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:42,560
facebook wall and if you believe in it

1242
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:44,690
and want to get it out there that helps

1243
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:47,330
anything helps to to help spread the

1244
00:55:52,780 --> 00:55:50,330
idea of this story and and help there's

1245
00:55:55,150 --> 00:55:52,790
so much key we've just gotten through

1246
00:55:57,460 --> 00:55:55,160
one experience right now we're not even

1247
00:56:00,370 --> 00:55:57,470
finished yet with chad and alta there is

1248
00:56:02,350 --> 00:56:00,380
so much more to go and we're not going

1249
00:56:05,020 --> 00:56:02,360
to be able to get it all into the show

1250
00:56:07,060 --> 00:56:05,030
today i know that for a fact on fashion

1251
00:56:08,740 --> 00:56:07,070
or not and we do have to take another

1252
00:56:10,900 --> 00:56:08,750
break here in just a couple minutes mark

1253
00:56:12,820 --> 00:56:10,910
just so you're up to speed also on we

1254
00:56:14,770 --> 00:56:12,830
would do want to take the last 15

1255
00:56:16,900 --> 00:56:14,780
minutes or so at least maybe 20 minutes

1256
00:56:18,220 --> 00:56:16,910
of the show to talk about the actual

1257
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:18,230
book what you're gonna find in the book

1258
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:20,450
what the process of writing this book

1259
00:56:25,570 --> 00:56:22,850
has been like and everything in between

1260
00:56:27,340 --> 00:56:25,580
for chad and alta uh and much more about

1261
00:56:28,780 --> 00:56:27,350
the project in just a little bit here

1262
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:28,790
we're definitely gonna get heavier into

1263
00:56:34,030 --> 00:56:32,330
that but in the meantime 88 89 1923 55

1264
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:34,040
is a telephone number would love to take

1265
00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:35,810
your telephone calls for chat and alta

1266
00:56:39,319 --> 00:56:37,440
if there's anything you're Wonder

1267
00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:39,329
about the maybe we have missed 8 8 8 9

1268
00:56:43,940 --> 00:56:42,089
19 2 or 3 55 now just in the last few

1269
00:56:45,319 --> 00:56:43,950
minutes here before we go to break and

1270
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:45,329
come back and move on to something else

1271
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:47,760
I want to take on this moment to ask you

1272
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:49,530
guys this one question because this is

1273
00:56:52,970 --> 00:56:50,730
something that's been burning with me

1274
00:56:54,980 --> 00:56:52,980
well as we've done the course of this

1275
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:54,990
interview and I want to know and not

1276
00:57:00,559 --> 00:56:57,810
necessarily in specifics necessarily

1277
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:00,569
about whether or not this could be the

1278
00:57:06,530 --> 00:57:04,050
case but just if it is the case is there

1279
00:57:09,050 --> 00:57:06,540
anything about this experience with the

1280
00:57:12,109 --> 00:57:09,060
lost time the preview experience that we

1281
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:12,119
just got finished recounting that you up

1282
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:14,160
until this point in discussing it and

1283
00:57:18,050 --> 00:57:16,530
telling your story and and getting word

1284
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:18,060
out there about what you guys have gone

1285
00:57:22,250 --> 00:57:19,530
through is there anything that you have

1286
00:57:24,140 --> 00:57:22,260
held back or not made public yet again I

1287
00:57:26,059 --> 00:57:24,150
don't want you to actually like disclose

1288
00:57:27,740 --> 00:57:26,069
anything but just is their thing are the

1289
00:57:31,250 --> 00:57:27,750
things that you have not talked about in

1290
00:57:32,540 --> 00:57:31,260
uh for any number of reasons fear or you

1291
00:57:34,190 --> 00:57:32,550
just there's details that you don't

1292
00:57:35,870 --> 00:57:34,200
wanna get out there for personal reasons

1293
00:57:37,579 --> 00:57:35,880
just anything like that are there things

1294
00:57:43,220 --> 00:57:37,589
about this story that people do not know

1295
00:57:45,770 --> 00:57:43,230
about yet there absolutely is a portion

1296
00:57:48,740 --> 00:57:45,780
of our story that we have never been

1297
00:57:56,510 --> 00:57:48,750
public about that we have included in

1298
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:56,520
the book uh it's it's not only in our

1299
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:58,290
world I was gonna say because I you

1300
00:58:02,089 --> 00:58:00,000
probably don't want to disclose it yet

1301
00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:02,099
especially if you're intending for these

1302
00:58:04,970 --> 00:58:03,510
things to come out in the book which

1303
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:04,980
makes a lot of sense to me on it gives

1304
00:58:08,329 --> 00:58:06,089
people a reason to want to read the book

1305
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:08,339
and buy the book but just knowing alone

1306
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:10,319
that there are elements to this that

1307
00:58:16,130 --> 00:58:13,520
might make a huge difference in what

1308
00:58:18,260 --> 00:58:16,140
people perceive your story as is

1309
00:58:19,819 --> 00:58:18,270
exciting enough for me to want to read

1310
00:58:22,569 --> 00:58:19,829
this book so and we encourage everybody

1311
00:58:25,819 --> 00:58:22,579
to go to truth funders and check it out

1312
00:58:28,609 --> 00:58:25,829
and may at least say thank you publicly

1313
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:28,619
to you mark into you and Jay we love you

1314
00:58:36,589 --> 00:58:30,810
both so much for thinking enough of us

1315
00:58:38,829 --> 00:58:36,599
to contribute to us yeah we we're happy

1316
00:58:43,069 --> 00:58:38,839
to help if it was up to me I would

1317
00:58:45,470 --> 00:58:43,079
finance your project myself because I I

1318
00:58:47,990 --> 00:58:45,480
just really believe in it I think you

1319
00:58:50,270 --> 00:58:48,000
guys have a best seller on your hands

1320
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:50,280
and to be at the ground floor of that

1321
00:58:52,700 --> 00:58:50,970
and

1322
00:58:58,310 --> 00:58:52,710
to be someone who helped to contribute

1323
00:59:00,680 --> 00:58:58,320
to that you know I I think that I would

1324
00:59:03,290 --> 00:59:00,690
love to say that I was a part of one of

1325
00:59:06,740 --> 00:59:03,300
these stories and and this book that

1326
00:59:09,950 --> 00:59:06,750
helped bring awareness to the community

1327
00:59:11,450 --> 00:59:09,960
and to the world you know that there

1328
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:11,460
there's a book I just finished reading

1329
00:59:20,780 --> 00:59:14,400
The Amityville Horror and I've heard

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00:59:22,580 --> 00:59:20,790
interviews with with the the man who it

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00:59:23,900 --> 00:59:22,590
happened to I've heard him on our bell

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00:59:28,130 --> 00:59:23,910
show up for him on several different

1333
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:28,140
shows and its really I mean this really

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00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:31,410
happened to him and he believes that it

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00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:35,370
happened to him and and that story that

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00:59:40,010 --> 00:59:38,370
book it it's sold and and it brought the

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00:59:41,990 --> 00:59:40,020
attention of the awareness of what was

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00:59:45,470 --> 00:59:42,000
going on in that area in the house to so

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00:59:48,050 --> 00:59:45,480
many people your story is in a

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00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:48,060
completely different league and there

1341
00:59:54,260 --> 00:59:50,490
are so many elements of it I mean we

1342
00:59:55,910 --> 00:59:54,270
haven't gone to the the Sasquatch stuff

1343
00:59:58,760 --> 00:59:55,920
yet and we maybe haven't gotten with you

1344
01:00:00,440 --> 00:59:58,770
what happened to you at Columbine what

1345
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:00,450
we'll do is we'll we'll take a quick

1346
01:00:04,070 --> 01:00:02,370
break we'll come back and maybe we can

1347
01:00:06,590 --> 01:00:04,080
just went through like a bullet list or

1348
01:00:08,090 --> 01:00:06,600
a checklist and in highlights of some of

1349
01:00:09,170 --> 01:00:08,100
these like Sasquatch and Columbine and a

1350
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:09,180
few other things that we want to make

1351
01:00:13,130 --> 01:00:11,520
sure and at least bring awareness to in

1352
01:00:14,750 --> 01:00:13,140
the duration of this conversation and

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01:00:16,940 --> 01:00:14,760
then we'll talk a lot more about your

1354
01:00:19,340 --> 01:00:16,950
guys's book specifics the project

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01:00:20,870 --> 01:00:19,350
details rewards all of that when we come

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01:00:22,460 --> 01:00:20,880
back here live on truth funders radio

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here on the inception radio network my

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name is art web I'm with mark Schwartz

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and our guests chad and alta Dillard

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high strangeness is the topic and we

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here on the inception radio network my

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name is art web I am with mark Schwartz

1434
01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:20,020
we've got about 30 minutes left in this

1435
01:04:24,780 --> 01:04:21,910
particular edition of the program here

1436
01:04:26,850 --> 01:04:24,790
with Chad and all Ted Dillard and again

1437
01:04:28,050 --> 01:04:26,860
just as last week and we anticipated

1438
01:04:29,610 --> 01:04:28,060
this to be the case I don't know why we

1439
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:29,620
didn't start sooner we are running out

1440
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:31,570
of time very quickly considering all of

1441
01:04:34,980 --> 01:04:32,890
the other things that we would least

1442
01:04:37,890 --> 01:04:34,990
like to try and squeeze in before the

1443
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:37,900
end of the program so Chad and alta if

1444
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:39,970
there's uh if there's any way we can

1445
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:41,530
possibly run through a few of the other

1446
01:04:44,310 --> 01:04:42,850
things that are going to be covered in

1447
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:44,320
your book just to get people excited

1448
01:04:50,250 --> 01:04:47,410
about them what are some of the key or

1449
01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:50,260
more substantial elements that you think

1450
01:04:56,370 --> 01:04:53,200
should be at least noted upon here in

1451
01:04:59,970 --> 01:04:56,380
this particular time yeah what stories

1452
01:05:03,990 --> 01:04:59,980
have happened to you you can tell just a

1453
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:04,000
little little clips about well you know

1454
01:05:10,170 --> 01:05:07,450
we still being there in in New Orleans

1455
01:05:14,460 --> 01:05:10,180
there was many ghosts kind of encounter

1456
01:05:19,740 --> 01:05:14,470
things I've had a an encounter with a

1457
01:05:24,270 --> 01:05:19,750
voodoo priest that had passed away in an

1458
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:24,280
apartment that we lived in and then when

1459
01:05:33,990 --> 01:05:28,050
we were out in cholera in New Mexico I

1460
01:05:39,870 --> 01:05:34,000
ran into a man that his eyes turn

1461
01:05:43,620 --> 01:05:39,880
totally black no whiteness know anything

1462
01:05:46,110 --> 01:05:43,630
new the whole eyeball is black so you

1463
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:46,120
know I know that the stories of the

1464
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:47,890
black-eyed children are very popular

1465
01:05:56,220 --> 01:05:51,010
right now this was a black eyed adult

1466
01:05:58,770 --> 01:05:56,230
male this was also an area in New Mexico

1467
01:06:02,910 --> 01:05:58,780
that does man that's becoming well-known

1468
01:06:06,900 --> 01:06:02,920
noun his name is Andrew basiago claims

1469
01:06:08,670 --> 01:06:06,910
that he was as a child and sixties his

1470
01:06:13,380 --> 01:06:08,680
father was part of a secret space

1471
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:13,390
program and then or he was right he

1472
01:06:17,710 --> 01:06:15,290
claims that he

1473
01:06:21,550 --> 01:06:17,720
was time portaled into an area in New

1474
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:21,560
Mexico called savills or so Rios it so

1475
01:06:28,420 --> 01:06:23,450
happens that's where Chad and I moved to

1476
01:06:32,380 --> 01:06:28,430
and this is where this black eyed adult

1477
01:06:34,330 --> 01:06:32,390
encounter took place lots of high

1478
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:34,340
strangeness took place up in those

1479
01:06:39,460 --> 01:06:36,110
mountains of New Mexico that this man

1480
01:06:42,790 --> 01:06:39,470
claims she was time portal dinchu where

1481
01:06:46,300 --> 01:06:42,800
he's also he's a he's also running for

1482
01:06:48,310 --> 01:06:46,310
president that says Goldford for next

1483
01:06:49,900 --> 01:06:48,320
year was to run for president and

1484
01:06:56,310 --> 01:06:49,910
whether people won't believe him or not

1485
01:06:59,520 --> 01:06:56,320
i'm not sure but it's a his story is is

1486
01:07:01,540 --> 01:06:59,530
definitely full of high strangeness we

1487
01:07:04,690 --> 01:07:01,550
understand pain for his presidential

1488
01:07:06,370 --> 01:07:04,700
campaign oh my gosh you know some people

1489
01:07:08,770 --> 01:07:06,380
have actually reached out to him about

1490
01:07:11,110 --> 01:07:08,780
that and and it's really interesting

1491
01:07:14,350 --> 01:07:11,120
because his stuff it's so far out there

1492
01:07:18,790 --> 01:07:14,360
it's it's hard to believe but the way he

1493
01:07:21,490 --> 01:07:18,800
says it and and the detail is so it's

1494
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:21,500
almost like you can't not believe what

1495
01:07:26,770 --> 01:07:23,810
he's saying it's there's there's so much

1496
01:07:30,070 --> 01:07:26,780
going on there and and so it's it's a

1497
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:30,080
really for anybody listening you should

1498
01:07:33,490 --> 01:07:31,730
definitely google his name at some point

1499
01:07:34,750 --> 01:07:33,500
and check out and listen to his story

1500
01:07:36,940 --> 01:07:34,760
Jimmy church did a really good interview

1501
01:07:38,650 --> 01:07:36,950
with him and there's been other people

1502
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:38,660
who have who have interviewed him that

1503
01:07:45,190 --> 01:07:42,650
are he has so much I mean it's it's it's

1504
01:07:46,660 --> 01:07:45,200
a wealth of knowledge it's it's really

1505
01:07:49,150 --> 01:07:46,670
incredible I want to know about the

1506
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:49,160
Sasquatch thing that mark mentioned what

1507
01:08:00,120 --> 01:07:53,210
is the Sasquatch experience quickly so I

1508
01:08:03,910 --> 01:08:00,130
had a very detailed invisible Sasquatch

1509
01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:03,920
experience but a more physical

1510
01:08:09,730 --> 01:08:06,110
appearance took place with Chad's father

1511
01:08:14,110 --> 01:08:09,740
and his adult brother that I'd have Chad

1512
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:14,120
described to you we said this was this

1513
01:08:18,730 --> 01:08:16,970
was right outside the Talladega National

1514
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:18,740
right around the Talladega National

1515
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:21,130
Forest where we lived there in Alabama

1516
01:08:28,660 --> 01:08:24,770
and Talladega spilling Florida that's

1517
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:28,670
the forest forest died right there

1518
01:08:37,390 --> 01:08:33,770
the feet way sasquatch man yeah right

1519
01:08:39,820 --> 01:08:37,400
right yeah but his father who will not

1520
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:39,830
speak about yea tall you guys talk about

1521
01:08:44,769 --> 01:08:42,170
it my brother will like that my

1522
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:44,779
brother's taking my dad to the atlanta

1523
01:08:48,610 --> 01:08:46,850
airport early in the morning which is

1524
01:08:51,729 --> 01:08:48,620
about a three-hour drive three-hour

1525
01:08:54,700 --> 01:08:51,739
drive it was just getting lie they see

1526
01:08:56,590 --> 01:08:54,710
that's what they think is a hitchhiker

1527
01:09:01,180 --> 01:08:56,600
on the side of the road with the big

1528
01:09:04,809 --> 01:09:01,190
backpack on they get close to him in

1529
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:04,819
this said this thing stands up and they

1530
01:09:12,459 --> 01:09:08,170
said it's big Carrie as they passed it

1531
01:09:14,890 --> 01:09:12,469
it's quite eight nine foot tall as they

1532
01:09:18,039 --> 01:09:14,900
pass it it kind of looks at them

1533
01:09:20,260 --> 01:09:18,049
directly in the eyes tibbetts turns and

1534
01:09:24,130 --> 01:09:20,270
take three or four steps and into the

1535
01:09:27,579 --> 01:09:24,140
wood that goes as if it we and it was on

1536
01:09:29,470 --> 01:09:27,589
this side of the highway guardrail you

1537
01:09:31,630 --> 01:09:29,480
know I'm rather than the office did it

1538
01:09:35,919 --> 01:09:31,640
was on the highway side of it as if this

1539
01:09:38,709 --> 01:09:35,929
being was waiting for them another

1540
01:09:42,490 --> 01:09:38,719
incident when we first started our

1541
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:42,500
journey in our rolling Hacienda we were

1542
01:09:54,189 --> 01:09:49,250
up in Ohio for a ghost to ghost yeah

1543
01:09:56,470 --> 01:09:54,199
expo somewhere in Portsmouth anyway I go

1544
01:10:00,370 --> 01:09:56,480
to take the dogs out for their evening

1545
01:10:04,570 --> 01:10:00,380
walk when we get lit into the campground

1546
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:04,580
and as we walked up to the to the house

1547
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:09,890
to the can the camper I hear this what I

1548
01:10:17,140 --> 01:10:15,110
call a Grunch north and it was what can

1549
01:10:19,979 --> 01:10:17,150
you do and do that again please i want

1550
01:10:25,780 --> 01:10:19,989
to make sure happens we'll be right back

1551
01:10:30,070 --> 01:10:25,790
it was like about that oh that's so good

1552
01:10:32,860 --> 01:10:30,080
and yeah my life i stopped in the dog

1553
01:10:37,330 --> 01:10:32,870
stop the dog beers went up it i mean

1554
01:10:38,860 --> 01:10:37,340
like okay we can go now so we ran you

1555
01:10:41,050 --> 01:10:38,870
know I've got the dog up like it can go

1556
01:10:41,649 --> 01:10:41,060
and get them go in so we give me and

1557
01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:41,659
that's now

1558
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:46,249
a little Australian red heeler and an

1559
01:10:49,839 --> 01:10:48,050
Australian Shepherd that are hurting

1560
01:10:52,149 --> 01:10:49,849
dogs not dogs that would run from

1561
01:10:54,279 --> 01:10:52,159
something naturally you know I would ask

1562
01:10:55,839 --> 01:10:54,289
that you do have animals and Yuri seem

1563
01:10:58,029 --> 01:10:55,849
to be animal lovers do you is it your

1564
01:11:00,009 --> 01:10:58,039
belief their experience that animals are

1565
01:11:02,199 --> 01:11:00,019
more in tune with high strangeness and

1566
01:11:03,759 --> 01:11:02,209
or more easily sensing of things going

1567
01:11:06,219 --> 01:11:03,769
on around them and do you guys actually

1568
01:11:07,929 --> 01:11:06,229
look to your animals as a barometer from

1569
01:11:09,549 --> 01:11:07,939
time to time to see if you know there's

1570
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:09,559
something going on maybe that you can't

1571
01:11:15,219 --> 01:11:13,010
quite tell yet what it is we used to

1572
01:11:18,129 --> 01:11:15,229
have a black great dane and a rottie

1573
01:11:21,609 --> 01:11:18,139
dope and i can assure you that when i

1574
01:11:23,679 --> 01:11:21,619
had an encounter yeah with my invisible

1575
01:11:26,229 --> 01:11:23,689
Sasquatch with a girlfriend with me

1576
01:11:30,489 --> 01:11:26,239
having this in my backyard those dogs

1577
01:11:32,770 --> 01:11:30,499
were clearly knocked out as well as Chad

1578
01:11:34,779 --> 01:11:32,780
and Jacqueline happened to be there

1579
01:11:39,699 --> 01:11:34,789
visiting also in this encounter took

1580
01:11:42,399 --> 01:11:39,709
place she nobody that it gave any

1581
01:11:45,159 --> 01:11:42,409
attention it was all the household had

1582
01:11:48,489 --> 01:11:45,169
been knocked out including the dogs now

1583
01:11:51,159 --> 01:11:48,499
this our new dog this australian red

1584
01:11:54,250 --> 01:11:51,169
heeler and little australian shepherd

1585
01:11:57,129 --> 01:11:54,260
mix made it very clear to Chad when he

1586
01:12:00,179 --> 01:11:57,139
heard that grunt snort they wanted to go

1587
01:12:02,589 --> 01:12:00,189
in fast they were not interested in

1588
01:12:04,719 --> 01:12:02,599
investigating whatsoever what they had

1589
01:12:09,549 --> 01:12:04,729
just heard yeah they were they were

1590
01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:09,559
ready to get in the house just Western

1591
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:12,169
all excited had comes in and he's got

1592
01:12:17,589 --> 01:12:14,090
this look on his face like something has

1593
01:12:19,810 --> 01:12:17,599
Japan yeah but subtle just good snorted

1594
01:12:23,199 --> 01:12:19,820
at me out there nothing but thank

1595
01:12:26,890 --> 01:12:23,209
watching tosh squatchy and so you know

1596
01:12:28,899 --> 01:12:26,900
she did just cook dinner we had hot dogs

1597
01:12:30,729 --> 01:12:28,909
grilled hot dogs and stuff like that so

1598
01:12:32,500 --> 01:12:30,739
she makes the place you know she's got

1599
01:12:37,029 --> 01:12:32,510
I'm going to make an offering yeah she's

1600
01:12:40,319 --> 01:12:37,039
got a hot dogs and cheetos a chocolate

1601
01:12:42,939 --> 01:12:40,329
chocolate cookie he was a July [\h__\h]

1602
01:12:45,939 --> 01:12:42,949
yeah this is and then these little

1603
01:12:48,669 --> 01:12:45,949
cinnamon candy cinnamon jelly bean right

1604
01:12:52,060 --> 01:12:48,679
Chad takes this plate paper plate full

1605
01:12:55,570 --> 01:12:52,070
of food outside I say that said it

1606
01:12:59,140 --> 01:12:55,580
there's a like a falling tree right out

1607
01:13:01,630 --> 01:12:59,150
the campus the camper and I said it to

1608
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:01,640
where if something messes with it it'll

1609
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:03,890
fall you know it's just a little

1610
01:13:10,780 --> 01:13:05,810
sandpaper and I just a little paper

1611
01:13:13,150 --> 01:13:10,790
plate you know so get in go to bed I

1612
01:13:15,850 --> 01:13:13,160
mean before I could even get my eyes

1613
01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:15,860
open the next morning before i could

1614
01:13:23,290 --> 01:13:19,360
turn on the coffee pot houses like

1615
01:13:26,290 --> 01:13:23,300
golden plate okay go check go check so I

1616
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:26,300
go out there she doesn't want to you

1617
01:13:33,850 --> 01:13:30,650
know I go out and look and the plate is

1618
01:13:36,670 --> 01:13:33,860
still sitting on this blog you know and

1619
01:13:38,770 --> 01:13:36,680
I said it on the round part it's still

1620
01:13:42,550 --> 01:13:38,780
sitting there everything is off that

1621
01:13:45,550 --> 01:13:42,560
fight except those jellies is cow

1622
01:13:47,230 --> 01:13:45,560
interest in the cinema jellies huh won't

1623
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:47,240
you in the cinnamon jelly but there's

1624
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:49,370
not a good job there's no crumbs on the

1625
01:13:58,240 --> 01:13:53,090
ground there's no friend there's no

1626
01:14:00,730 --> 01:13:58,250
scuff marks you notice I believe it yeah

1627
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:00,740
I believe it was like our closets eats

1628
01:14:08,050 --> 01:14:04,370
cookies I was thinking wrong aided by

1629
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:08,060
you know right and out it like could you

1630
01:14:13,210 --> 01:14:09,890
see a deer and into the wood with the

1631
01:14:16,510 --> 01:14:13,220
weenie in itself you know it just wasn't

1632
01:14:18,850 --> 01:14:16,520
happen is you know and then again for

1633
01:14:20,850 --> 01:14:18,860
sake of time in that same location we

1634
01:14:24,730 --> 01:14:20,860
discovered the woman who had that small

1635
01:14:27,010 --> 01:14:24,740
park RV park had lived there all her

1636
01:14:30,850 --> 01:14:27,020
life she's in her 50s or so her husband

1637
01:14:33,490 --> 01:14:30,860
is a guard a prison guard at the prison

1638
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:33,500
local prison down the mountain she

1639
01:14:39,190 --> 01:14:36,050
claims that just prior to us getting

1640
01:14:42,850 --> 01:14:39,200
there Bigfoot hunters whatever that TV

1641
01:14:47,230 --> 01:14:42,860
show is had just been there filming in

1642
01:14:49,420 --> 01:14:47,240
those woods Wow right and then again for

1643
01:14:53,590 --> 01:14:49,430
sake of time Chad and I are walking our

1644
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:53,600
girls gala paved road that is flanked by

1645
01:14:59,890 --> 01:14:56,480
woods on both sides one afternoon before

1646
01:15:02,350 --> 01:14:59,900
we left that area as we return our on

1647
01:15:05,470 --> 01:15:02,360
our return walk there was no question

1648
01:15:08,410 --> 01:15:05,480
what there was no question at all we

1649
01:15:09,370 --> 01:15:08,420
were hearing what I I commonly have

1650
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:09,380
heard

1651
01:15:17,140 --> 01:15:13,250
all chatter uh voices that we could not

1652
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:17,150
distinguish the language but sounded

1653
01:15:24,700 --> 01:15:20,810
like females and possibly young were

1654
01:15:27,700 --> 01:15:24,710
going alongside of us in those words but

1655
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:27,710
we couldn't see anything we could only

1656
01:15:33,879 --> 01:15:30,530
hear and the dog that is it again and

1657
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:33,889
crappy I can hear the tree voice to like

1658
01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:36,290
I you the one of the few talents I have

1659
01:15:39,790 --> 01:15:38,000
in this world because there are few but

1660
01:15:41,950 --> 01:15:39,800
one of them is I can just kind of

1661
01:15:43,450 --> 01:15:41,960
distinguish in their intonation and tone

1662
01:15:44,830 --> 01:15:43,460
of voice when somebody's lying and when

1663
01:15:46,030 --> 01:15:44,840
they're telling the truth I don't know

1664
01:15:47,830 --> 01:15:46,040
why it's just something I'm able to do

1665
01:15:50,379 --> 01:15:47,840
and the amount of truth that I hear in

1666
01:15:51,700 --> 01:15:50,389
your guys's voice is just it's that's

1667
01:15:53,410 --> 01:15:51,710
what creeps me out like that's what

1668
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:53,420
stands up the hairs on the back of my

1669
01:15:57,189 --> 01:15:55,250
neck just knowing that you guys aren't

1670
01:16:00,010 --> 01:15:57,199
BS yes in any way shape or form there's

1671
01:16:02,610 --> 01:16:00,020
a question I'm dereon on the chat room

1672
01:16:05,470 --> 01:16:02,620
Matt Matt mark do you want to take that

1673
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:05,480
yeah sure so there's a question for you

1674
01:16:12,340 --> 01:16:09,530
from Daria or derya a cool very cool

1675
01:16:15,939 --> 01:16:12,350
name my sister's name is Dara so so I

1676
01:16:19,660 --> 01:16:15,949
appreciate the name the the question is

1677
01:16:22,990 --> 01:16:19,670
do you to believe there's a connection

1678
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:23,000
between ghosts and aliens or do they

1679
01:16:27,310 --> 01:16:24,650
just perceive them or do you just

1680
01:16:34,030 --> 01:16:27,320
perceive them as entities all that is

1681
01:16:38,410 --> 01:16:34,040
entities sure in a weird way I think

1682
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:38,420
it's all connected in some hello I'm

1683
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:45,530
angry and in my case I I don't know what

1684
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:49,690
an alien is or a ghost in all honesty

1685
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:53,570
again I know nothing so to me it is all

1686
01:16:59,200 --> 01:16:57,770
connected and not connected at all it is

1687
01:17:00,490 --> 01:16:59,210
everything and nothing is nothing but my

1688
01:17:02,110 --> 01:17:00,500
favorite phrase on the face of the

1689
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:02,120
planet you have no idea how much my face

1690
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:03,770
just lit up with like a giant smile

1691
01:17:07,419 --> 01:17:05,810
because there is no look at you know

1692
01:17:10,030 --> 01:17:07,429
I'll be honest about this I took acid

1693
01:17:11,410 --> 01:17:10,040
once and it really like did a great

1694
01:17:12,910 --> 01:17:11,420
amount of things for me and it brought

1695
01:17:14,189 --> 01:17:12,920
me to the center of the universe it just

1696
01:17:16,780 --> 01:17:14,199
affirmed everything that I've ever

1697
01:17:19,060 --> 01:17:16,790
suspected or thought would be the case

1698
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:19,070
and the only way that I can truly and

1699
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:21,530
most correctly describe it is to say

1700
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:22,730
that everything is everything and

1701
01:17:25,190 --> 01:17:23,250
nothing is

1702
01:17:27,170 --> 01:17:25,200
nothing and that is you just nailed it

1703
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:27,180
you hit it nail on the head also you

1704
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:32,250
just blew my page never butanol go and

1705
01:17:37,730 --> 01:17:35,610
and with that I I want to really quickly

1706
01:17:39,710 --> 01:17:37,740
talk about your project you guys so we

1707
01:17:42,380 --> 01:17:39,720
only have a few minutes left so I want

1708
01:17:46,310 --> 01:17:42,390
to go through this and and talk about it

1709
01:17:49,390 --> 01:17:46,320
so everybody if you go to ww thunders

1710
01:17:53,510 --> 01:17:49,400
calm right now you can go there you can

1711
01:17:55,310 --> 01:17:53,520
scroll down and click on et contact in

1712
01:17:57,260 --> 01:17:55,320
the French Quarter that's the name of

1713
01:17:59,270 --> 01:17:57,270
the project on the project you'll see a

1714
01:18:00,920 --> 01:17:59,280
few things one of them is a video

1715
01:18:02,390 --> 01:18:00,930
there's a picture of the x-ray and

1716
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:02,400
there's a play button in the middle of

1717
01:18:07,100 --> 01:18:05,010
it and you can hear last week's show for

1718
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:07,110
part one if you press play there you

1719
01:18:11,540 --> 01:18:09,090
could scroll down you could read their

1720
01:18:12,980 --> 01:18:11,550
their story there's like their whole

1721
01:18:15,350 --> 01:18:12,990
stories in there but it's just

1722
01:18:17,150 --> 01:18:15,360
abbreviated we didn't even hit some of

1723
01:18:20,480 --> 01:18:17,160
the other things that that have happened

1724
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:20,490
to them like um shapeshifters and and

1725
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:22,170
there's so much that's gone on with the

1726
01:18:26,780 --> 01:18:24,810
story and it's really important that the

1727
01:18:30,050 --> 01:18:26,790
story is written I can't stress that

1728
01:18:33,170 --> 01:18:30,060
enough it needs to be written down and

1729
01:18:35,270 --> 01:18:33,180
and done in a good way and so what Chad

1730
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:35,280
and alta are asking for they've done the

1731
01:18:39,620 --> 01:18:36,570
research they've done the homework

1732
01:18:42,410 --> 01:18:39,630
they're not writers themselves but they

1733
01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:42,420
they want the story to represent them

1734
01:18:46,850 --> 01:18:44,880
correctly they want they need to work

1735
01:18:48,860 --> 01:18:46,860
with real people and real professional

1736
01:18:51,290 --> 01:18:48,870
people in order to get the book written

1737
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:51,300
in order to get the book published and

1738
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:54,090
and they have all this lined up they are

1739
01:18:58,460 --> 01:18:56,250
literally just looking to raise the

1740
01:19:01,460 --> 01:18:58,470
funds so if you go there you can see

1741
01:19:05,150 --> 01:19:01,470
some of the pictures that we had talked

1742
01:19:09,290 --> 01:19:05,160
about the x-rays with with what I'm

1743
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:09,300
calling an implant which it which is in

1744
01:19:15,980 --> 01:19:11,840
all desire a better term ultimately

1745
01:19:17,870 --> 01:19:15,990
right you can see an example of the blue

1746
01:19:19,610 --> 01:19:17,880
being that chat encountered what it

1747
01:19:21,860 --> 01:19:19,620
looked like to him that's not the real

1748
01:19:23,990 --> 01:19:21,870
one you didn't actually get a picture of

1749
01:19:26,780 --> 01:19:24,000
the real being but that's that's a close

1750
01:19:28,790 --> 01:19:26,790
representation you could see the corner

1751
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:28,800
where they were taken in New Orleans and

1752
01:19:33,710 --> 01:19:30,690
you can read more about their story and

1753
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:33,720
there is so much to the story you guys

1754
01:19:36,510 --> 01:19:35,250
we're going to have to get you on again

1755
01:19:38,550 --> 01:19:36,520
at some I think that

1756
01:19:41,010 --> 01:19:38,560
is look I tell you how much how much

1757
01:19:44,490 --> 01:19:41,020
time is this uh uh campaign can be

1758
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:44,500
running for mark well we have it open

1759
01:19:48,990 --> 01:19:47,110
for a few months because really wants me

1760
01:19:50,970 --> 01:19:49,000
I think what we should do is as the

1761
01:19:52,110 --> 01:19:50,980
campaign runs down in the next few

1762
01:19:53,850 --> 01:19:52,120
months towards the end of it we should

1763
01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:53,860
have them back on again to kind of catch

1764
01:19:57,270 --> 01:19:56,080
up and talk about the process of the

1765
01:19:59,160 --> 01:19:57,280
campaign things that have happened

1766
01:20:00,180 --> 01:19:59,170
developments as well as maybe touch on a

1767
01:20:02,220 --> 01:20:00,190
few the things that we haven't been able

1768
01:20:03,630 --> 01:20:02,230
to yet and just in you know I think that

1769
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:03,640
that would be a good idea if they're

1770
01:20:09,810 --> 01:20:05,290
agreeable to it and would like to come

1771
01:20:12,470 --> 01:20:09,820
back obviously such an honor and thank

1772
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:12,480
you so much for thinking of us

1773
01:20:16,260 --> 01:20:14,890
absolutely and really quick I know we're

1774
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:16,270
running out of time but there's a couple

1775
01:20:22,230 --> 01:20:18,970
of things that I want to discuss about

1776
01:20:24,780 --> 01:20:22,240
this project you have four if ppl donate

1777
01:20:28,860 --> 01:20:24,790
ten dollars there's a secret history of

1778
01:20:32,580 --> 01:20:28,870
the chia seed book so tell us a little

1779
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:32,590
bit about this the the chia seed you

1780
01:20:37,860 --> 01:20:36,010
talk to me a little bit before the radio

1781
01:20:39,300 --> 01:20:37,870
show about it and can you tell people a

1782
01:20:42,440 --> 01:20:39,310
little bit about this book what they

1783
01:20:46,050 --> 01:20:42,450
would get for donating that ten dollars

1784
01:20:49,770 --> 01:20:46,060
so there's a gentleman that is a native

1785
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:49,780
Californian named Bill Anderson who we

1786
01:20:58,140 --> 01:20:53,770
think quite highly of who back and i

1787
01:21:01,440 --> 01:20:58,150
believe the 60s got involved with the

1788
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:01,450
world of chia and became very he's a

1789
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:05,050
he's a oh he's an individual who truly

1790
01:21:10,260 --> 01:21:07,210
cares about human beings and their

1791
01:21:14,430 --> 01:21:10,270
welfare he got involved with growers and

1792
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:14,440
mexico growing this chia seed he worked

1793
01:21:19,470 --> 01:21:16,330
very hard to get it implemented into

1794
01:21:21,900 --> 01:21:19,480
this country particularly working with

1795
01:21:24,540 --> 01:21:21,910
indigenous people Indians on

1796
01:21:30,540 --> 01:21:24,550
reservations people of all walk of life

1797
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:30,550
I it became undermined this is just my

1798
01:21:35,610 --> 01:21:33,010
saying that's my interpretation I feel

1799
01:21:37,770 --> 01:21:35,620
it became undermined by the powers that

1800
01:21:40,380 --> 01:21:37,780
be or whatever is controlling this

1801
01:21:43,710 --> 01:21:40,390
country to get the world to think of

1802
01:21:46,710 --> 01:21:43,720
chia as the chia pet that became so

1803
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:46,720
popular in the 70s I think nobody

1804
01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:49,930
understood it to be a superfood and

1805
01:21:54,330 --> 01:21:51,600
and I think you use the word

1806
01:21:57,630 --> 01:21:54,340
bastardization of the of the chia seed

1807
01:22:01,050 --> 01:21:57,640
so by by making the chia pet they were

1808
01:22:04,290 --> 01:22:01,060
trying to get rid of the idea that this

1809
01:22:06,030 --> 01:22:04,300
is actually a good food or a super they

1810
01:22:07,980 --> 01:22:06,040
were trying to make it more gel smacked

1811
01:22:13,890 --> 01:22:07,990
us from like right yeah it's like pot

1812
01:22:16,710 --> 01:22:13,900
something absolutely and so another

1813
01:22:18,990 --> 01:22:16,720
individual that is working very hard to

1814
01:22:23,580 --> 01:22:19,000
help us get this book written and

1815
01:22:26,550 --> 01:22:23,590
published Paul I became close to Bill

1816
01:22:30,180 --> 01:22:26,560
Anderson Paul has been a part of our

1817
01:22:32,790 --> 01:22:30,190
life for the last many many years and he

1818
01:22:35,610 --> 01:22:32,800
chose to get involved with Bill Anderson

1819
01:22:38,820 --> 01:22:35,620
to push this forward in this country in

1820
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:38,830
particular by doing the research and

1821
01:22:44,990 --> 01:22:42,250
then writing the Chia book so there's

1822
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:45,000
some history it's a small book but it's

1823
01:22:52,650 --> 01:22:48,490
really chock full of information and

1824
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:52,660
recipes coming truly from you know the

1825
01:23:00,150 --> 01:22:56,890
highest of authority on this subject so

1826
01:23:01,950 --> 01:23:00,160
that's perfect and that's so cool so ten

1827
01:23:03,630 --> 01:23:01,960
dollars you will receive the secret

1828
01:23:06,690 --> 01:23:03,640
history of the chia seed you'll receive

1829
01:23:08,910 --> 01:23:06,700
this this book written by Paul for

1830
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:08,920
twenty dollars you will get an

1831
01:23:12,750 --> 01:23:11,290
autographed copy of the book that you

1832
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:12,760
guys are going to be putting out high

1833
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:15,130
strangeness or I'm not sure if that's

1834
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:17,290
the working title yet I love that name

1835
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:18,970
by the way if it's not the final title

1836
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:20,170
it should be because it's such a

1837
01:23:24,210 --> 01:23:22,930
marketable and catchy name and if I saw

1838
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:24,220
a book that was titled high strangeness

1839
01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:25,930
while browsing the bookstore I would

1840
01:23:31,410 --> 01:23:27,040
pull it out immediately and start

1841
01:23:34,440 --> 01:23:31,420
looking at it and for fifty dollars if

1842
01:23:36,570 --> 01:23:34,450
ppl donate that I mean you will you'll

1843
01:23:38,370 --> 01:23:36,580
get a reading with Alta so Alta do you

1844
01:23:40,860 --> 01:23:38,380
want to tell us and I know we're running

1845
01:23:42,990 --> 01:23:40,870
out of time so if you could give us the

1846
01:23:49,470 --> 01:23:43,000
twenty second version of fun meeting

1847
01:23:51,330 --> 01:23:49,480
with you is like I work very differently

1848
01:23:53,700 --> 01:23:51,340
than other readers that I've ever been

1849
01:23:55,590 --> 01:23:53,710
around i am the only readers selected to

1850
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be honored in a book about new oral and

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written by a woman that was a journalist

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with the Washington Post me I literally

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01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:06,040
let you control the reading I'm not

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01:24:10,770 --> 01:24:07,690
about telling you things you're not

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01:24:14,130 --> 01:24:10,780
interested in hearing about I work by

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guidance and alone you do this over the

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phone I do both and over the phone or in

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01:24:24,930 --> 01:24:24,010
person energy i'm sorry i was just

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01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:24,940
saying for those of us that might be in

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California while you're in ohio or

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01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:27,280
something like that if they were to

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01:24:30,570 --> 01:24:29,110
donate that money from it you would be

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01:24:33,210 --> 01:24:30,580
able to still do it via telephone or

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skype absolutely i've been doing that

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many years right it's it's all energy as

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far as I'm concerned and it works

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01:24:42,780 --> 01:24:39,450
beautifully over the phone no I won't

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01:24:44,430 --> 01:24:42,790
let the donate the money and and I'm

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01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:44,440
actually gonna get that from you because

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I would love or reading yeah I think I'm

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01:24:49,260 --> 01:24:47,530
gonna I think mark and I are milking and

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01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:49,270
pony up the funds for that would be my

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honor and so and just to move along here

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01:24:59,760 --> 01:24:56,860
for a hundred dollars you guys own a

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01:25:03,170 --> 01:24:59,770
company that you travel with a craft

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01:25:07,290 --> 01:25:03,180
show currently and you call yourself

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01:25:09,420 --> 01:25:07,300
it's allz and so for a hundred dollars

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01:25:11,729 --> 01:25:09,430
people will receive in the mail one of

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01:25:14,430 --> 01:25:11,739
your unique shawls that are not actually

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01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:14,440
made by a rabbit you've told me from

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01:25:19,950 --> 01:25:18,130
Rayna um from a rabbit but if it by

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01:25:22,050 --> 01:25:19,960
ramming me see a rabbit there Iran is

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01:25:27,870 --> 01:25:22,060
playing that for many carats and making

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01:25:34,140 --> 01:25:27,880
sure there's anything under shawls is

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01:25:37,830 --> 01:25:34,150
the Sharum expeditiously oh go go ahead

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set the shelves are traditionally Native

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American their native american on

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ourselves traditionally so they're their

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01:25:48,780 --> 01:25:46,090
brother shields in a way to the

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absolutely are we fuse them with

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different fabrics and different cultures

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you wouldn't necessarily see it like a

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powwow we've also done energy work on

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them so they're great for prayer she

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meditated really we've also had a couple

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of testimonies over the years of us

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presenting the shelves because Chad and

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I are the only ones in the world that

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are doing this where we've opened it up

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to the world couple testimonies one of a

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gentleman that was had a terminal

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illness and his wife and himself claimed

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01:26:20,060 --> 01:26:16,810
that the show that was Preston

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for him they feel that it saved him

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another woman we just received a

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01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:24,640
testimony a couple weeks ago where she

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gave herself to a friend who within the

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hospital very very sick and this woman

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01:26:35,610 --> 01:26:32,500
tells us for tears in our eyes that this

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woman is no longer sick so somebody

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about making them as well that they

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carry that kind of healing power so

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again how much more how-to books towards

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the book uh uh a hundred dollars for

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that and then I don't deserve their two

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minutes okay and then their their final

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thing I mean this is great you guys not

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only are you helping to donate to get a

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book off the ground and to get this

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incredible story of theirs off the

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ground but you are actually receiving

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stuff like you're getting something for

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your donation so it's not a charity case

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01:27:10,620 --> 01:27:08,650
it's you think you aren't helping you're

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01:27:13,830 --> 01:27:10,630
helping people and then you're getting

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01:27:15,870 --> 01:27:13,840
something really cool and research so

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yeah and the last thing is is a frame

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shawl so I know we only have two minutes

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left if you guys want to give us the the

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twenty-second you know think about about

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what the frame how the frame trial is

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different than the unique rabbit saw

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well you know again they're the same

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energy that we put into it but these are

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limited-edition fabrics that we are

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using from a Native American trading

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post so you know they're just a little

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bit fancier more word more work as well

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as they have somewhat of a 3d effect to

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them we've been told by view awesome I'm

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into that psychedelic so so you guys I

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want to thank you so much for coming

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onto the show and sharing your

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experience with us this isn't the end

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we're gonna have you I know your your

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strangeness continues throughout your

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lives and your sodium or more things

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happening and instigates I know there's

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there's just we did not we just don't

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have enough time and and that's why this

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01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:22,000
book is so important so we will have you

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back on the show we urge anybody out

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01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:26,080
there to really help out with this cause

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and make it happen if you if you believe

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01:28:31,959 --> 01:28:30,050
if you want

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to hear the rest of the story you know

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01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:35,179
you can be a part of this so thank you

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01:28:41,229 --> 01:28:37,250
both so much for coming on the show we

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01:28:44,620 --> 01:28:41,239
really appreciate it and to you and to

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Arden to MJ thank you all so much for

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01:28:50,049 --> 01:28:46,369
what you're doing for us and

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01:28:53,290 --> 01:28:50,059
congratulations mark on your intended

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01:28:57,339 --> 01:28:53,300
nuptial yeah congratulations oh thank

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you Ben thank you very much Omar a

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genuine Oh flora st there's nobody

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01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:04,159
better than mark Schwartz except for

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01:29:07,510 --> 01:29:05,570
maybe you two and we're all in in

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01:29:09,129 --> 01:29:07,520
commonly good company here I hate to cut

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01:29:11,020 --> 01:29:09,139
you guys off but we are again we're up

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against the clock here and as Mark said

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thank you so much for joining us on the

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01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:14,540
program I wish so much that we could get

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two more but you are listening to truth

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finders radio and the inception radio

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01:29:21,310 --> 01:29:20,179
network truth funders @ gmail.com is the

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email address please send us your

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correspondence we write to everything

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01:29:25,959 --> 01:29:24,770
that we get because if you took the time

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to write us we should take the time to

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write you back truth funders @ gmail.com

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you can find us on Twitter on Facebook

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truth funders com is where Chad and

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01:29:35,770 --> 01:29:33,260
altas project is go there now not

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01:29:37,359 --> 01:29:35,780
kidding don't now stop it now go there

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01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:37,369
now and throw a couple bucks their way

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01:29:40,629 --> 01:29:39,050
we appreciate you guys so much being on

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the program my name is art web for mark

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shorts I will talk to you next week same

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time same channel here on the inception